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Title: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: elcas on Tuesday 13 December 16 23:47 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

what could

"in memory of my mother, my sister, my brother, my friend
                   1855 M.H. "
on a gravestone mean?

Below that "also Maria Hide ( the above mentioned M.H.)  who died July 9th 1866 ".

Any suggestion or lead?

thanks,

elcas
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: groom on Tuesday 13 December 16 23:52 GMT (UK)
My guess would be that perhaps Maria Hide bought the burial plot in 1855 and had the head stone erected in memory of those people. Then when she died in 1866 her name was added and she was buried there. In that case it probably means that the first people are not buried in that grave.
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: elcas on Wednesday 14 December 16 00:03 GMT (UK)
I had something like that in my mind too. It was a self-supporting lady, single and left a will.

But she had a father, two sisters and two brothers. And what about the friend?

And why in that specific year. ?

Someone suggested that "my mother, my sister, my brother, my friend" could be a lyric.

Anyhow thanks.
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: groom on Wednesday 14 December 16 00:07 GMT (UK)
Did all the others predecease her?
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: elcas on Wednesday 14 December 16 00:21 GMT (UK)
I have no idea about the mother, nor her sister

Her father was buried earlier in the same cemetery.
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 14 December 16 00:51 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

what could

"in memory of my mother, my sister, my brother, my friend
                   1855 M.H. "
on a gravestone mean?

elcas

When did her father die?

Could the rest, mother, sister, brother & friend have all died at the same time in strange circumstances in 1855 & she couldn't afford the lettering for each i.e. just a compact memorial?

Just a thought?

Annie
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 14 December 16 12:45 GMT (UK)
The grave plot may have been bought as soon as the cemetery opened. Many municipal cemeteries opened in the mid 1850s following changes in the burial laws.
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: elcas on Wednesday 14 December 16 23:40 GMT (UK)
To all!

Many thanks for your suggestions/ideas.

I`ll bear them in mind in my research.

elcas
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: Chapuys on Thursday 15 December 16 05:57 GMT (UK)
I was talking to a graveyard worker earlier in the year. He was talking to me about how in the past family were buried in plot, but also friends of the family or neighbours sometimes shared the plots of other friends or neighbours. I think we were lamenting on the failing of the community and talking to our neighbours at the time. That could be a possibility.
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: Geoff-E on Thursday 15 December 16 08:41 GMT (UK)
I suppose it's possible that the local churchyard was closed for burials by 1855 and this was a way of being "with" her close family after she was buried elsewhere i.e. in the cemetery.
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: Shropshire Lass on Thursday 15 December 16 15:42 GMT (UK)
It was a self-supporting lady, single and left a will.

But she had a father, two sisters and two brothers. And what about the friend?

It's possible that her friend was her partner - wouldn't have been the done thing in those days to be more specific than 'friend'.
Title: Re: "in memory"on gravestone
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Thursday 15 December 16 16:06 GMT (UK)
... especially if the friend was female too, which may not have meant a "partner" in the sense of today. I knew two or three sets of very upright elderly spinster ex-teachers who lived with another elderly, upright speinster ex-teachers, who would probably have been horrified at the thought that a "friend" they shared a home with meant anything more than actually that.