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Title: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: handsri on Wednesday 07 December 16 18:21 GMT (UK)
Hello - could anyone help?

I am trying to find  out what happened to Bollettie Mary Davies after she divorced my (cad of a...) grandfather, Herman George Tankersley Davies, in Dunedin in 1916 ("George", as he was known, having left for Oz with another woman in 1911 - and that was just the start....).

Bollettie appears to have married a Thomas Edgar Hobbs in 1919, but after that I have drawn a blank. Was there any issue from that match, I wonder, and where and when did they live and die?

I am also, particularly, curious to learn the fate of Bollettie's child with Davies, Walter Hansen (b. 1909): there too, I have found nothing.

Many, many thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction.

Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 07 December 16 18:39 GMT (UK)
Hello & welcome to Rootschat

Have a look at this link a post put on rootschat back in 2010 title heading
help needed with Davies family
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=463729.0
it mentions Walter Hansen b1909 (reply 4)
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: rosie17 on Wednesday 07 December 16 18:43 GMT (UK)
Marriage for Walter Hansen Davies 1931 New Zealand
Spouse Doreen Miriam Rosetta Clarke ...both at Northumberland Avenue Auckland in 1981
Rosie

And welcome to rootschat from me also  :)
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 07 December 16 18:44 GMT (UK)
This tree mentions that Thomas Edgar Hobbs died 25 March 1941

http://www.oocities.org/heartland/cottage/1522/hobbs.htm

JJ
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 07 December 16 19:00 GMT (UK)
Burial of a Bollette Mary Gray (wonder if she remarried after Thomas died)

http://www.purewa.co.nz/view/?id=17710

JJ
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 07 December 16 19:08 GMT (UK)
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls -

1935/38

Bollettie Mary Hobbs is recorded as living in Waitemata, Auckland

JJ
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 07 December 16 19:14 GMT (UK)
Burial of a Bollette Mary Gray (wonder if she remarried after Thomas died)

JJ

Yes, she did remarry,  four years later to  Richmond John Stevenson Gray  Note spelling for her name was Bolette for this record :)


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 07 December 16 19:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Handsri -

The link I gave you I'd not noticed that you had added a reply - just to let you
know poster alisonjar has not been active on roots since 2011 but if her email is still active
she should receive your message - once you have made three posts you can contact her by
using the personal message system

good luck  :)

Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: JJen on Wednesday 07 December 16 19:23 GMT (UK)
Burial of a Bollette Mary Gray (wonder if she remarried after Thomas died)

JJ

Yes, she did remarry,  four years later to  Richmond John Stevenson Gray  Note spelling for her name was Bolette for this record :)


Cheers
KHP

Burial of Richmond (in the same grave as Bollette)

http://www.purewa.co.nz/view/?id=29265

JJ
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 07 December 16 19:25 GMT (UK)
There is a Probate held at Auckland Archives for Bolette Mary Gray.

https://archway.archives.govt.nz/


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: Janette on Wednesday 07 December 16 22:04 GMT (UK)
Marriage for Walter Hansen Davies 1931 New Zealand
Spouse Doreen Miriam Rosetta Clarke ...both at Northumberland Avenue Auckland in 1981
Rosie

And welcome to rootschat from me also  :)

Deaths
1992/38716   Davies    Walter Hansen    born 17 February 1908
2000/20316   Davies    Doreen Miriam Rosetta    born 1 September 1908

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: Janette on Wednesday 07 December 16 22:11 GMT (UK)
Cremations for Water and Doreen At North Shore Memorial Park

Surname   Davies
Forename(s)   Walter Hansen
Age   84 Years
Gender   Male
Date of death   30/03/1992
Date of cremation   2/04/1992
Funeral director   H. Morris Ltd
Funeral director address   Po Box 36273, Northcote, Auckland 0748
Cemetery   Unknown
Cemetery address   Unknown
Plot location   Unknown

Surname   Davies
Forename(s)   Doreen Miriam Rosetta
Age   93 Years
Gender   Female
Date of death   24/09/2000
Date of cremation   28/09/2000
Funeral director   Mark Rowley Funeral Services
Funeral director address   16 - 18 Anne Street, Devonport, Auckland 0624
Cemetery   Unknown
Cemetery address   Unknown
Plot location   Unknown

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: Lucy2 on Wednesday 07 December 16 22:52 GMT (UK)

Bollettie appears to have married a Thomas Edgar Hobbs in 1919, but after that I have drawn a blank. Was there any issue from that match, I wonder, and where and when did they live and die?


Hi

I'm not able to open the link provided by JJen in Reply # 3 regarding the tree in which Thomas Edgar HOBBS is mentioned ?  So not sure if you have the following info ?

The "New Zealand Herald" newspaper of 27 March 1941 carried his death notice.  There is no mention of any children.

"HOBBS - On 25 March at Northcote, Thomas Edgar, dearly beloved husband of Bolettie Mary HOBBS, in his 58th year.  Private interment.

In the same newspaper, on same date, a brief article on his death and the inquest.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/

   ~  Lu

Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: JJen on Thursday 08 December 16 13:06 GMT (UK)

Bollettie appears to have married a Thomas Edgar Hobbs in 1919, but after that I have drawn a blank. Was there any issue from that match, I wonder, and where and when did they live and die?


Hi

I'm not able to open the link provided by JJen in Reply # 3 regarding the tree in which Thomas Edgar HOBBS is mentioned ?  So not sure if you have the following info ?


Strange that you cannot open the link as it is still working.

JJ
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs/Davies, née Rasmussen - a zillion thanks and one more Q
Post by: handsri on Thursday 08 December 16 14:22 GMT (UK)
Dear all

I am quite overwhelmed by the generosity of your response. Thank you all so much, you have provided an extraordinarily rich trove of information in almost no time at all.

With everything you have given me, I am close to being able to close out the NZ chapter of my investigations (upstream of Bollettie, the Rasmussens are legion and accessibly documented).

I have, however, one final question that is eating me. Bollettie's first husband, my colourful but decidely dastardly grandfather, Herman George Tankersley Davies, was born in Otago in 1882, the son of Walter Davies and Annie Elizabeth Dodd. I have quite a lot about the Dodds, and some information on Walter - but not when he immigrated to NZ from England. Would it be possible to find this out?

No worries if this is a tall order - my cup runneth already over ...

Many thanks again to all concerned

All the best,

Richard
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs/Davies, née Rasmussen - a zillion thanks and one more Q
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 08 December 16 17:45 GMT (UK)

I have, however, one final question that is eating me. Bollettie's first husband, my colourful but decidely dastardly grandfather, Herman George Tankersley Davies, was born in Otago in 1882,
the son of Walter Davies and Annie Elizabeth Dodd.

 I have quite a lot about the Dodds, and some information on Walter - but not when he immigrated to NZ from England.

Would it be possible to find this out?


Here’s another link to alisonjar this time post for info. Re DAVIES/DODD
There’s 11 pages you might find something you don’t already have
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=464436.0 - reply 12
Walter's burial 1893

What I did notice on the post was the 1881 marriage for Annie Elizabeth Dodd
to Walter DAVIES his occupation draper
father Daniel mother Elizabeth nee Brown

You probably have all this info. but just in case.....

I’ve taken a quick look at the census found Walter DAVIES on 1861 & 1871 census but as yet can’t spot when he came to NZ - will keep looking

1851 HO107; Piece: 1992; Folio: 242; Page: 13
Daniel 29, Elizabeth 23, George Evans Davies 4mths

1861c  RG 9; Piece: 1869; Folio: 36; Page: 13
Castle Gates Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Daniel Davies  39 Hodnet, Shropshire occ. Confectioner & wine Merchant
Elizabeth 32 St Alkmons, Shropshire
George E 10
Daniel 9
WALTER 5 St Mary, Shropshire
Jacob B (Brown) 2
Kate 8mths

1856 bp Walter https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPJS-C3X

1871 RG10; Piece: 3665; Folio: 4; Page: 1 - Market Place Stockport Cheshire
Walter Davies 15 Shrewsbury occ draper apprentice

1871 census Walter’s father is still living Castle Gate but his wife isnamed Jane
(so possible remarriage), only one child with them and that’s Jacob age 12

Daniel DAVIES died 24 April 1880 at Castle Gates
15 July The Will and with one Codicil
Executors widow Jane & son Jacob Brown Davies Confectioner





Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 08 December 16 18:22 GMT (UK)
On the link I gave didn't spot where Annie Elizabeth Dodd was born?
Was it Australia?

The names below are mentioned on that post

Don't have access to look at this record
Ann Elizabeth Dodd
Mother    Bethany F(T)ankersley
Father    Henry Dodd
Victoria, Australia

Is it possible that Walter came to Australia first? :-\

There's this record year of birth is a close match

Walter Davies Age:   20 (1855)
Arrival Date:   25 Aug 1875
Arrival Place:   Queensland, Australia
Ship:   Ophelia
Title:   Assisted Immigration 1848 to 1912
Page Number:   981 QSA Item:   18477
Microfilm:   Z1958 Microfilm 2:   M1698

Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs/Davies, née Rasmussen - a zillion thanks and one more Q
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 08 December 16 19:37 GMT (UK)


..... the son of Walter Davies and Annie Elizabeth Dodd. I have quite a lot about the Dodds, and some information on Walter - but not when he immigrated to NZ from England. Would it be possible to find this out?


Hi Richard

Can you tell us please what you currently have for Walter DAVIES ... it saves us from having to trawl through those long earlier threads.  ;)

Year of birth ... his death and where it occurred  ... his occupation ...

Of course since the earlier information was gathered for Alison? ... many new records have become available.

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: handsri on Thursday 08 December 16 20:00 GMT (UK)
Dear Lu and Ladyhawk

Many thanks, and sorry for being so vague (new to this).

Walter Davies b. 1856 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England - draper
1871 census has him still single, still living in Shrewsbury
1881 m. Annie Elizabeth Dodd in Dunedin
1893 died NZ

So he migrated (a dirty word nowadays - but these boards and history show it is what makes the world go round!) some time between 1871 and 1881.

So Ladyhawk's suggestion (arr. Australia 1875, aged around 20) would fit.
Many thanks

Richard
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: handsri on Thursday 08 December 16 20:11 GMT (UK)
PS Ladyhawk: Annie Elizabeth Davies née Dodd b. 1857 Victoria, Australia - so that would also fit with Walter arriving first in Oz c. 1875.

It was Annie's mother , Bethany Dodd née Tankersley (hence my grandgrather - and uncle's - weird given name) who emigrated from Lincolnshire to Victoria. Her first four children were born there - in '56, '57, '59 and '61. Her 5th child was born in '62 in Dunedin.

Richard
Title: Re: Bollettie Mary Hobbs (div. Davies), née Rasmussen
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 08 December 16 20:23 GMT (UK)
Thanks Richard ... that's a great help.   ;)

re: Walter DAVIES ... have just found a further snippet of info in New Zealand records which requires further investigation but might hopefully lead to determining how/when Walter arrived in NZ.

    ~  Lu