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Title: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: Billdunne48 on Wednesday 07 December 16 17:16 GMT (UK)
Hi,I have a photo of my Grandfather in Irish Guards uniform circa 1910,on the lower sleeve there is a large patch with buttons.Above this is a redish stripe and above that is a wider yellow stripeCan you tell me what these stripes mean.Thanks if you can help,Happy Christmas to you,Bill
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: ScouseBoy on Wednesday 07 December 16 17:50 GMT (UK)
Can you try to post the photo please?
Was it the full dress uniform  or was it khaki

Welcome to Rootschat

How old was your grandfather at that date.
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: macintosh on Wednesday 07 December 16 19:04 GMT (UK)
Coloured stripes 1910? sounds like someone has been colouring in, does he have a white belt with buttons in groups of four? Drummers have stripes(chevrons)all the way up the arm,
Sounds like the home serivice red tunic re the buttons on the sleeve on a darker background colour

Would be best if you posted it

James
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: John915 on Wednesday 07 December 16 19:36 GMT (UK)
Good evening,

Firstly, ignore ScouseBoy's rambling. As an expert on military matters he should know that all the guards regiments have a gaunlet cuff with buttons on it running vertically. The yellow stripe will be a long service and good conduct stripe. The red is probably just part of his tunic between the other two elements.

I would show you a picture or give you a link but my laptop is doing never ending updates so on tablet. But if you google guards uniforms_pictures it will show you. Date is irrelevant as the guards wear the same uniform now as they did in the 1800s.

John915
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: ScouseBoy on Wednesday 07 December 16 19:57 GMT (UK)
Good evening,

Firstly, ignore ScouseBoy's rambling. As an expert on military matters he should know that all the guards regiments have a gaunlet cuff with buttons on it running vertically. The yellow stripe will be a long service and good conduct stripe. The red is probably just part of his tunic between the other two elements.

I would show you a picture or give you a link but my laptop is doing never ending updates so on tablet. But if you google guards uniforms_pictures it will show you. Date is irrelevant as the guards wear the same uniform now as they did in the 1800s.

John915
      When they are on Active Service in a war zone   they do not  wear  the same uniform  as they  did in the 1800s
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: John915 on Wednesday 07 December 16 20:03 GMT (UK)
Back again,

But they were not on active service in 1910.

Plus the khaki uniforms don't have the gaunlet cuffs, only the red dress uniform..

John915

Added, until the boer war nearly ALL regts wore red.
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: KGarrad on Wednesday 07 December 16 20:32 GMT (UK)
See attached
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: Billdunne48 on Wednesday 07 December 16 20:49 GMT (UK)
See attached
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: Billdunne48 on Wednesday 07 December 16 21:13 GMT (UK)

Thanks to all for replies,The Guards uniform he wears is not red,its a ceremonial uniform deffo not for combat,tunic is not khaki either, either dark green or dark blue.Tunic buttons in groups of 4,white belt ,cuffs with 4 buttons and he is holding a stick.I APOLIGISE i CAND SEND PHOTO i NEED MY 2YR OLD gRANDCHILD TO SHOW ME,Thanks again,Bill
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: Billdunne48 on Wednesday 07 December 16 21:16 GMT (UK)
PS ,under the photo is a number 8B-8365c Bill
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: Billdunne48 on Wednesday 07 December 16 21:20 GMT (UK)
PPS My Grandfather would be late twenties in the photo.
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: macintosh on Thursday 08 December 16 07:08 GMT (UK)
Sounds like it is a No1 Dress "Blues" uniform, they ae still worn today by the Brigade if Guards but I am not sure when they first emerged as "walking out" uniform, Cavalry Regiments had similar "walking out" dress.

James
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: Billdunne48 on Thursday 08 December 16 09:00 GMT (UK)
Thanks everybody for the reply,This has been a great help to me. Monday I travel from Limerick Ireland to Kew to see if I can get more information on my Grandfather.I will post the photo when I can.Thanks again,Bill
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: km1971 on Thursday 08 December 16 18:34 GMT (UK)
The Guards regiments appear to have retained a copy of their soldiers records. Google Irish Guards Archivist to get their contact details. They charge £30.

I doubt you will find anything in Kew as everything from the peroid is online, and no longer available in Kew.

Ken
Title: Re: uniform of irish guards markings
Post by: scrimnet on Wednesday 14 December 16 14:36 GMT (UK)
Has the picture been scanned in yet??