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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: fortitude on Saturday 03 December 16 21:25 GMT (UK)
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I'm looking for the children of John Herald Barr and Mary McLachlan who were married Dec.12,1913 in Inchinnan. I have an Eleanor born in Inchinnan, Apr.25,1914, I believe there are two other girls, Elizabeth and Mazie, but can't find them. Any help with this would be appreciated.
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Hi,
Not sure if this is your post or someone else?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01izc/
Annie
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Yes, that was my post.
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You will need to use Scotlands People to search for Barr births after 1914. It is unlikely you will be able to download the certs due to the 100yr rule if the other 2 children were born after 1916
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This looks like the family on the 1930 census San Jose Santa Clara California
Mrs Mary Barr age 36 born about 1894 Scotland widowed
Eleanor Barr age 15 born Scotland
Lily Barr age 14 born Scotland
Mazie Barr age 12 born Scotland
Ronald Barr age 7 born Canada
The family went to Quebec Canada departure date 27/7/1920 Glasgow ship Pretorian then USA
Rosie
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Census 1/1/1925 Colfax Jasper Iowa USA
John H Barr age 33 born Scotland father Alexander Barr mother Elizabeth Kelly
Mary Barr age 32 born Scotland father transcribed as John McGothen mother Eleanor Baird
Eleanor 10 ,Lily 9,Mazie 7, born Scotland Ronald age 3 born about 1922 this birth is down as Scotland
Death for Eleanor Barr Wood 18/3/1981 Santa Clara
Birth date 25/4/1914 other country
Mother's name McLachlan
Father Barr
Rosie
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There is a record for Mysie in the Canada Ocean Arrivals on Ancestry which says she was born in Inverkeithing. Birth on Scotlandspeople for a Mysie Harold Barr in Inverkeithing in 1917.
Isobel
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Death for John H Barr 9th January 1929 Santa Clara California
Birth date about 1892
Rosie
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There is a record for Mysie in the Canada Ocean Arrivals on Ancestry which says she was born in Inverkeithing. Birth on Scotlandspeople for a Mysie Harold Barr in Inverkeithing in 1917.
Isobel
Yes noticed the different spelling maybe that's why I am not seeing her :(
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The Canada Ocean Arrival form for Elizabeth says she was born in Clydebank ( nb Ancestry index gives her age as 47 but it is clearly age 4 on the original.)Possible birth on SP of an Elizabeth Millar Barr in Inchinnan in 1916.
Isobel
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Would say this would be the death for the son Ronald Barr some confusing information
Ronald M Barr birth 11 August 1922
Canada
( San Jose California )
Died 19 the April 1972 San Mateo
Father Jack Barr
Mother Molley M Barr
Rosie
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Death maybe for Molley Barr ?
Molley Fee birth dated 20 April 1890 other county
Died 17 April 1977 San Mateo
Rosie
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Thanks to everyone that replied to my post. I was hoping to get a date for the births of Elizabeth and Mazie Barr, maybe I could find them through death records. I found Mazie in 1938 in San Jose, California as a maid, but nothing on Elizabeth. Can't find any of the family in 1940 census, not even Ronald who died in 1972. Thanks again for the help.
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I've not yet found them in 1940, but in case you don't have three of them in 1938:
1938 San Jose, California Directory
Mrs. Mollie Barr, maid, h 778 S 5th
Ronald Barr, r778 S 5th
Mazie Barr, maid Hotel California r327 S 1st
Death maybe for Molley Barr ?
Molley Fee birth dated 20 April 1890 other county
Died 17 April 1977 San Mateo
Rosie
Good find, Rosie; that could be her (although her year of birth is a bit off). San Mateo Times Newspaper obituary: Molly was a native of Scotland. She had lived in the area (San Mateo County?) for 25 years. She was survived by her daughter (Eleanor) and several grandchildren.
Burial for Molly and her (2nd?) husband.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=3573433
Eleanor's burial can also be found on the above site (different cemetery and different city).
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Perhaps there's no connection but...
Monya Barr / Monya Newland
Born: 18 December 1918, Other Country
Died: 8 April 1941, Santa Cruz (California)
Father: Barr
Mother: McLachlan
1940 Santa Clara Census
Moya Newland, age 21, born Scotland, Naturalized, lived with her husband George and one son (most likely not her son, given the age of the child).
Update: If you try an internet search for
"newland" 1941 "santa clara"
you can "read" (it's garbled) a small newspaper report in the Santa Cruz Sentinel about an automobile accident that killed Moya Newland. :'(
(It's a pay site, but you can read the garbled text without viewing the actual newspaper.)
Moya's gravestone:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=63424168&ref=acom
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Could Mazie be Moya? :-\
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Lots of great information from everyone, I believe Moya/Monya was Maize Barr, one of the passengers in the car at the time of the accident was a Ronald Barr, it says he was a brother of Mrs. Newland.
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Perhaps there's no connection but...
Monya Barr / Monya Newland
Born: 18 December 1918, Other Country
Died: 8 April 1941, Santa Cruz (California)
Father: Barr
Mother: McLachlan
Good find Lisa
Rosie