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Title: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: mtrimble on Tuesday 29 November 16 15:21 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm trying to identify Jack Randle (P/JX.182172) who received a Distinguished Service Medal in 1940 for helping with evacuations at Dunkirk aboard the H.M.S Llanthony.

I cannot request his service records because I am not next of kin. It's likely he is no longer living, but I haven't been able to figure out where/when he was born and died etc. Ultimately, I'm hoping to connect with his next of kin. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 29 November 16 17:17 GMT (UK)
Not sure if this will help but have you considered his actual name on birth/marriage/death to be John as well as possible variants of Randel/Randell/Randal/Randall or other?

Annie
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: ScouseBoy on Tuesday 29 November 16 17:40 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm trying to identify Jack Randle (P/JX.182172) who received a Distinguished Service Medal in 1940 for helping with evacuations at Dunkirk aboard the H.M.S Llanthony.

I cannot request his service records because I am not next of kin. It's likely he is no longer living, but I haven't been able to figure out where/when he was born and died etc. Ultimately, I'm hoping to connect with his next of kin. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you
The P/JX will give you some information about his service, P denotes Portsmouth his "home" port.  JX denotes something else. Use google for a table of Royal Navy serial number abbreviation
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: mtrimble on Tuesday 29 November 16 18:25 GMT (UK)
Not sure if this will help but have you considered his actual name on birth/marriage/death to be John as well as possible variants of Randel/Randell/Randal/Randall or other?

Annie

Hi Annie, Thanks for taking the time to reply. I've considered it, but he was listed in the Gazette under the name "Jack Randle" when he received the DSM, so I'm making the assumption that he used it as his legal name in an effort to narrow my search.
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: mtrimble on Tuesday 29 November 16 18:26 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm trying to identify Jack Randle (P/JX.182172) who received a Distinguished Service Medal in 1940 for helping with evacuations at Dunkirk aboard the H.M.S Llanthony.

I cannot request his service records because I am not next of kin. It's likely he is no longer living, but I haven't been able to figure out where/when he was born and died etc. Ultimately, I'm hoping to connect with his next of kin. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you
The P/JX will give you some information about his service, P denotes Portsmouth his "home" port.  JX denotes something else. Use google for a table of Royal Navy serial number abbreviation

Thanks so much. I will look into that.
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: Keitht on Tuesday 29 November 16 19:25 GMT (UK)

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The P/JX will give you some information about his service, P denotes Portsmouth his "home" port.  JX denotes something else. Use google for a table of Royal Navy serial number abbreviation
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P/JX serials work as follows. As correctly identified, his port of enlistment was Portsmouth. The letter J denotes a technical craft and the letter X denotes a "whole war" enlistment.
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: RRTB on Tuesday 29 November 16 19:29 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm trying to identify Jack Randle (P/JX.182172) who received a Distinguished Service Medal in 1940 for helping with evacuations at Dunkirk aboard the H.M.S Llanthony.

I cannot request his service records because I am not next of kin. It's likely he is no longer living, but I haven't been able to figure out where/when he was born and died etc. Ultimately, I'm hoping to connect with his next of kin. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-records-of-deceased-service-personnel

If you scroll just beyond halfway down there are links for General Inquirer's Forms.

Also, this link will help you understand the JX+numbers bit: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZR_3gOOImjQJ:www.godfreydykes.info/ROYAL%2520NAVY%2520OFFICIAL%2520NUMBERS%2520%5BRATINGS%5D.htm+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b

RRTB
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: mtrimble on Tuesday 29 November 16 19:36 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm trying to identify Jack Randle (P/JX.182172) who received a Distinguished Service Medal in 1940 for helping with evacuations at Dunkirk aboard the H.M.S Llanthony.

I cannot request his service records because I am not next of kin. It's likely he is no longer living, but I haven't been able to figure out where/when he was born and died etc. Ultimately, I'm hoping to connect with his next of kin. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-records-of-deceased-service-personnel

If you scroll just beyond halfway down there are links for General Inquirer's Forms.

Also, this link will help you understand the JX+numbers bit: http://www.godfreydykes.info/ROYAL%20NAVY%20OFFICIAL%20NUMBERS%20[RATINGS].htm

RRTB

Thanks so much RRTB. Unfortunately, that form requires me to send a death certificate with the request unless the person died more than 116 years ago. That's why I'm sort of stuck.
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: ScouseBoy on Tuesday 29 November 16 19:37 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm trying to identify Jack Randle (P/JX.182172) who received a Distinguished Service Medal in 1940 for helping with evacuations at Dunkirk aboard the H.M.S Llanthony.

I cannot request his service records because I am not next of kin. It's likely he is no longer living, but I haven't been able to figure out where/when he was born and died etc. Ultimately, I'm hoping to connect with his next of kin. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-records-of-deceased-service-personnel

If you scroll just beyond halfway down there are links for General Inquirer's Forms.

Also, this link will help you understand the JX+numbers bit: http://www.godfreydykes.info/ROYAL%20NAVY%20OFFICIAL%20NUMBERS%20[RATINGS].htm

RRTB

Thanks so much RRTB. Unfortunately, that form requires me to send a death certificate with the request unless the person died more than 116 years ago. That's why I'm sort of stuck.
.   Surely 25 years NOT. What you said


As I always like to say (humorously).  The Royal Navy waives the rules
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 29 November 16 19:43 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to identify Jack Randle (P/JX.182172) who received a Distinguished Service Medal in 1940 for helping with evacuations at Dunkirk aboard the H.M.S Llanthony.

Having reread your post,

I assume you are doing research of a sort as you have given no detail regarding any family connection?

Annie
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: mtrimble on Tuesday 29 November 16 20:20 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I'm trying to identify Jack Randle (P/JX.182172) who received a Distinguished Service Medal in 1940 for helping with evacuations at Dunkirk aboard the H.M.S Llanthony.

I cannot request his service records because I am not next of kin. It's likely he is no longer living, but I haven't been able to figure out where/when he was born and died etc. Ultimately, I'm hoping to connect with his next of kin. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-records-of-deceased-service-personnel

If you scroll just beyond halfway down there are links for General Inquirer's Forms.

Also, this link will help you understand the JX+numbers bit: http://www.godfreydykes.info/ROYAL%20NAVY%20OFFICIAL%20NUMBERS%20[RATINGS].htm

RRTB

Thanks so much RRTB. Unfortunately, that form requires me to send a death certificate with the request unless the person died more than 116 years ago. That's why I'm sort of stuck.
.   Surely 25 years NOT. What you said


As I always like to say (humorously).  The Royal Navy waives the rules

Ha. If it's 116 years after death they will waive the death certificate requirement. 25 years still requires a death certificate.
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: mtrimble on Tuesday 29 November 16 22:16 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to identify Jack Randle (P/JX.182172) who received a Distinguished Service Medal in 1940 for helping with evacuations at Dunkirk aboard the H.M.S Llanthony.

Having reread your post,

I assume you are doing research of a sort as you have given no detail regarding any family connection?

Annie

Hi Annie,

Yes. I'm doing research for a documentary project about the evacuations at dunkirk.
Title: Re: Searching for Jack Randle P/JX.182172
Post by: Jacks Number One Son on Saturday 25 May 19 18:18 BST (UK)
I am Jack Randle's son, we have previously communicated but unfortunately my computer lost its data and i can not now contact you directly.
If you would like to contact me I can update you on the search I have subsequently carried out after looking into my Dad's service record.
Thanks,