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Title: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: marinerclark on Monday 28 November 16 05:34 GMT (UK)
I decided to check the East Sussex Record Office website to follow up a new lead and found that the wills are listed individually.
   Henry Clarks will was  registered in 1819 and proved in June of 1832 a month after he died.  The website says no ordering must view in office.  I am 6000 miles away.  Is anyone willing to look at this will or have access to abstracts.   Thank you for any advice or help    LizR
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: jonwarrn on Monday 28 November 16 08:12 GMT (UK)
Hi
Henry Clark of Playden, Miller
Will proved 30 June 1832 in the Archdeaconry of Lewes

You can see the original will on Family Search, if you register and are logged in
first image here
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6MZ3-R55?i=330

Register for a free account -
https://familysearch.org/register/1
John
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: marinerclark on Monday 28 November 16 15:10 GMT (UK)
I can't believe It.  So simple a solution.  Thank you for helping me.   LizR
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: marinerclark on Monday 28 November 16 19:25 GMT (UK)
Thank you for providing the link.   Would not have found the will without it.   I tried to find the Archdeanry records through the card catalog but this is micro film.  How do I find this?  I have 3 other wills I would love to read.  Again thank you.  I have been waiting years to read that will.   LizR
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: jonwarrn on Monday 28 November 16 19:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Liz
In the FS catalogue you need to put in Sussex (England, Sussex)
Then from the long list select Probate Records (39 of them)
Lewes wills -
Probate records, 1527-1858
Author: Church of England. Diocese of Chichester. Consistory Court (Archdeaconry of Lewes); East Sussex Record Office

It's all microfilm, and we have to find what we want on them ourselves. Gets harder the further you go back. Later ones seem to be in order of date proved.
If you need any help you could post the other names.
John
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: marinerclark on Monday 28 November 16 21:39 GMT (UK)
Hello  I found the microfilm by using the film number.    I was looking in the year registered rather than proved.  Will try again.
     Names are Mary Gravett    date of will   11 Nov 1807    Proved 23 Oct 1820
                     Thomas Clark    probate 5 Aug 1800
                      Thomas Clark    probate 1 Nov 1849

Again   thank you so much.     LizR
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: marinerclark on Thursday 01 December 16 23:22 GMT (UK)
I haven't found them yet.     Family search doesn't always recognize that I am logged in.   Or I am sent to the order the film page.  Any tips will be appreciated.    LizR
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Little Nell on Friday 02 December 16 21:46 GMT (UK)
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Thomas Clark    probate 5 Aug 1800

Do you mean Thomas Gravett?

Try this:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D19S-4QG?mode=g&i=297&cat=685691

Mary Gravett:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SP3-NQ4?mode=g&i=978&cat=685691

Thomas Clark 1849:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DRJB-1D?mode=g&i=770&cat=685691

Have fun  :)

Nell
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: marinerclark on Saturday 03 December 16 16:07 GMT (UK)
Dear Nell
     Thank you so much.  I am having fun.      My notes have a Thomas Clark 1800 as well as Thomas Gravett.   I will double check.  I spent hours last night trying to find Mary Gravett with no success.  Looking at the page header I think you were in the 1820 micrifilm.  I just missed it.   Thank you for helping me.   Elizabeth marries Henry Clark's son in 1810 Her mother was alive to see her settled.  LizR
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: marinerclark on Monday 05 December 16 00:24 GMT (UK)
I checked the ESRO website and there is a Thomas Clark  12 Mar 1800.  I think this is a son of John Clark and brother to my Philip Clark.  I think I can find him.    Started this search with 5 Thomas Clarks to sort out.  Learning lots.  Thank you.   LizR
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Alilenny on Tuesday 28 June 22 07:56 BST (UK)
Hi
Henry Clark of Playden, Miller
Will proved 30 June 1832 in the Archdeaconry of Lewes

You can see the original will on Family Search, if you register and are logged in
first image here
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6MZ3-R55?i=330

Register for a free account -
https://familysearch.org/register/1
John

Don't know if you can help me I am new to this but just seen your post. I am looking for a way of finding wills of my ancestors but don't understand how to do it. I seen your post above but am getting nothing. I am in Australia so can't go in and visit Sussex to get the wills. Any ideas on how I can do this.
I am trying to find the wills for my Bedingfeld family.  I have got a couple from National Archives UK that were available for me to download, but not the ones I am after.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers
Alison
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Little Nell on Wednesday 29 June 22 20:27 BST (UK)
Hi Alison,

Welcome to RootsChat.

Please can you give us some details of the wills you are looking for: names and dates and if you know, in which court they were proved. Then we may be able to help you.

Nell
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Alilenny on Thursday 30 June 22 07:05 BST (UK)
I'm sorry I jumped on here and saw the post with regards to wills and was thinking am I missing something. I am in Australia and have no idea where to begin with regards to the wills in the UK. Where do I find these and is there anything online where I can possibly access (even an index) so I can work out whrere the wills are kept.
I was only aware of the National Archives UK which has some but obviously not all. And from there I have been lucky enough to be able to download some that have been digitised but others haven't. But I have ancestors who were living in Catsfiled / Battle area, Norfolk area, and am researching Ditchingham Manor, and also stumbled on something with regards to the family having been in hold of Kirklinton Hall. I had not heard of this one before but apparently my ancestor was from there.
But I'd really like to try and get my hands on some wills for my ancestors.

The surnames of all listed below were spelt BEDINGFELD / BEDINGFIELD
(it seems this family went from one spelling to another thruout there lives - gets kinda confusing)

Francis Philip1784-1864
Mary Delicia (nee Rose) 1793-1828
Francis Philip 1817-
Thomas Forrester 1818-1897
Charles de Longueville 1819-1859
Eldred Havers 1820-
Norman Bernard 1824-1894
Howard Downman 1825-1896
Mary Catherine STERKEY (nee Bedingfeld) 1816-

If anyone can send me in the right direction on where or how to get some info I'd be most greatful.
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Little Nell on Friday 01 July 22 21:24 BST (UK)
Ok - Bedingfield is a name often found in Norfolk.  This particular thread is about wills proved in East Sussex prior to 1858.

Wills proved prior to 1858 were proved by church courts in the jurisdiction in which the testator resided.  So if you ancestor/relative died in Norfolk somewhere, you may find a will in the Norfolk archives (always assuming that they left a will) or it may have been proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC).  This is the research guide from NOrfolk Record Offce:
https://www.archives.norfolk.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/family-history/wills-and-probate/church-courts---probate-records-before-11-january-1858

The National Archives (TNA) hold the wills proved in PCC and these can be searched for in their catalogue.  They have two useful research guides here:
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/wills-or-administrations-before-1858/
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/wills-and-probate-before-1858-further-research/

Ancestry also has images of PCC wills pre-1858.

At least five of the people listed in your post died after this date and so if they left a will, you would need to search here:

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

You can order a pdf downloadable copy of the will for £1.50.  Try all spelling variants.  ;)

I hope that helps.

Nell
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Alilenny on Saturday 02 July 22 01:19 BST (UK)
Thanks for that. Just so I am getting this correct. So if I am researching family who were living in Kent and Catsfield they would come under Canterbury is that correct. Sorry for my lack of knowledge. But am learning something new every day here.
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Little Nell on Saturday 02 July 22 22:23 BST (UK)
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So if I am researching family who were living in Kent and Catfield they would come under Canterbury

Not necessarily.  PCC is the highest ecclesisatical court, but many wills were proved in lower more local courts. It depends on where the property held by the deceased was located.  Please look at the Genuki page on Norfolk probate records:

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NFK/probate#before1858

Most county record offices will now hold the wills for the church courts which covered that county.  But there are some exceptions.  FamilySearch has an article which may help you get started on understanding more:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/England_Probate_Records#General_Historical_Background

Some wills are available to view via FamilySearch, Ancestry or FindMyPast.

I hope that helps.

Nell
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Little Nell on Monday 04 July 22 21:56 BST (UK)
Just to clarify - are your ancestors from Catfield (Norfolk) or Catsfield (East Sussex).  There is a big difference in terms of geographical location.  And it might make a difference as to where to look.

Nell
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Alilenny on Tuesday 05 July 22 12:11 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Alilenny on Tuesday 05 July 22 12:16 BST (UK)
Just to clarify - are your ancestors from Catfield (Norfolk) or Catsfield (East Sussex).  There is a big difference in terms of geographical location.  And it might make a difference as to where to look.

Nell

Catsfield (Sussex) - yes the relies do come from Norfolk as well. But this actual part of the family were in Catsfield, and other Sussex towns. Like they were married in Hastings, lived in Battle, Catsfield and some lived in Deal, Sandwich and Margate
In the county of Kent. If I have that right. But yes the rest of the family were Norfolk. But its these Southerners I am most interested in cos they are my 5th gr grandparents and there generations down from them

Alison
Title: Re: Archdeanry of Lewes wills Clark 1832
Post by: Little Nell on Thursday 07 July 22 21:19 BST (UK)
This may help you:

Francis Philip1784-1864 - will available to order from https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/
Mary Delicia (nee Rose) 1793-1828 - do you know where she lived/died?  Was she a widow?
Francis Philip 1817- died 1874 will available to order from https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/
Thomas Forrester 1818-1897 administration only - see the same site
Charles de Longueville 1819-1859 no will listed
Eldred Havers 1820- ? d 1891 in France if so:  will available to order from https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/
Norman Bernard 1824-1894 no will listed
Howard Downman 1825-1896  administration only - see the same site
Mary Catherine STERKEY (nee Bedingfeld) 1816-   nothing obvious

Nell