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Title: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: caie on Monday 21 November 16 21:56 GMT (UK)
Trying to find additional information about a Sarah Ann Rodgers. Born in 1867 and died 1907. Her family was supposedly involved in the training of racehorses.

Does anyone know how I could find out anything that may help find additional information or is this really a needle in haystack?

Any ideas welcomed. Sorry I don't even have parents names.

Thank you

Caie
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 22 November 16 00:10 GMT (UK)
There is an Alexander Rodgers horse trainer, sadly not with his family in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Coleraine/Mountsanders/1518713/
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: caie on Tuesday 22 November 16 13:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks for this information. I want so much to assume it to be correct!  Area, dates etc would all fit and it would give me something else to work with.

Oh the joys of genealogy. One forward one back.

I'll keep the info and hope one day I'll be able to add to it

Caie
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 22 November 16 13:27 GMT (UK)
I was looking for both Alexandar's and Sarah's births to see if they had matching parents, nothing oblivious stright off, a find could be a bit hit and miss.
Did she die in Ireland?
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 22 November 16 13:33 GMT (UK)
Re: Alexander Rodgers in 1901- the townland has been mistranscribed but should read Mountsandal

This could be him in 1911- Ballysally just outside Coleraine:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Portstewart/Ballysally/593016

Marriage to Jane Leighton in 1904 gives father as Hugh Rogers, farmer, and the Beresford Place address isn't far from Mountsandal:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10206/5714073.pdf
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 22 November 16 13:40 GMT (UK)
Sarah Jane Rodgers, Portrush, daughter of Hugh Rodgers, farmer, married 1901 Robert Archibald Sloan:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10325/5758542.pdf
Unfortunately she's still alive in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Portrush_Town/Causeway_Street/130917
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: caie on Tuesday 22 November 16 13:56 GMT (UK)
Thank you aghadowey and Sinann

Sarah died in Dec 1907. I was told Ballykelly but unsure if this is where she lived or is buried.

She married Robert McCurry in1864 - Carryclare.

One of their children is a Margaret Leighton Rodgers McCurry born 1905 in Glasgow. I always wondered where the Leighton came from so was interested in the Leighton Alexander was married to in the census extract.

Alexander is a name used often through the family.

It just is so tempting to fit it all together.

Thank you so much for this. Feel it to be so nearly there.
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: caie on Tuesday 22 November 16 13:58 GMT (UK)
Just noticed the marriage to Sloan. Thanks but as you can see I have her marriage to McCurry.

I had hoped the name would be uncommon
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: gaffy on Tuesday 22 November 16 14:03 GMT (UK)

... She married Robert McCurry in1864 - Carryclare ...


The marriage was in 1890 and details for Sarah Ann's father were omitted:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10698/5899673.pdf

Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 22 November 16 14:08 GMT (UK)
Her death 1907 registered Limavady
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05508/4543575.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/2b9eca10748565
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: caie on Tuesday 22 November 16 14:08 GMT (UK)
Sorry gaffy. I should have said 1890. He was born 1864. Cannot believe her father omitted. I have had no luck trying to track her ancestors. Lots of help here previously.
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 22 November 16 14:11 GMT (UK)
For goodness sake you've already a thread looking for Sarah- where census, etc. has been posted  :-\
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=568783.msg4210105#msg4210105
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: caie on Tuesday 22 November 16 14:13 GMT (UK)
Thank you Sinann. That is her.

I think as she died before the family all moved to Glasgow very little is known about her so every little helps.
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: caie on Tuesday 22 November 16 14:19 GMT (UK)
For goodness sake you've already a thread looking for Sarah- where census, etc. has been posted  :-\
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=568783.msg4210105#msg4210105

I am sorry - don't want to be one of those 'repeat' requesters. Feel embarrassment. I couldn't find this post but had started this looking for the racehorse training connection as another possible thread

Thank you all for the additional information
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 22 November 16 14:28 GMT (UK)
When I was looking earlier I saw a possible birth with no father but dismissed it as I was looking for a horse trainer or similar, can't remember where it was now.
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: caie on Tuesday 22 November 16 14:42 GMT (UK)
I think that with no clear info re parents names or where she was born its going to be hard to be sure of right person.

The previous post I had really concentrated on her husband his family and their children etc. Sarah and where she came from is not an easy one. Thanks for trying.

I'll go back to the easier stuff for now and revisit this if I get anything more concrete from family etc

Thanks again

Caie

Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 22 November 16 16:56 GMT (UK)
The church copy of her marriage might help, if it still exists.
Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: gaffy on Tuesday 22 November 16 17:24 GMT (UK)
I'm afraid not (no father recorded), I had already checked it when I posted the civil record version of the marriage at reply #8.


Title: Re: Racing horse trainers. Coleraine
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 23 November 16 10:09 GMT (UK)
The Valuation Revision Book for Carrowclare VAL/12/B/31/20D (1883-1898) shows 8.a Eliza Rogers
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/searching-valuation-revision-books

This might be the same person-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Myroe/Carrowclare/1523599
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Myroe/Carrowclare/594553
died 1915-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1915/05268/4462184.pdf