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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: johnwhite on Sunday 20 November 16 11:50 GMT (UK)
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John Currie died 15 Oct 1854 in Eaglesham aged 73. His birth place in 1841 and 1851 census is Eaglesham,Renfrewshire.
Havent been able to find confirmation. He married twice, Elizabeth Fulton in 1801 and Anne Crawford later in 1830's.
Anyone out there can confirm his birth place?
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Hi John
Do you have any other info about John Currie = like his parents names
Anne
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John, with John Currie's death pre 1855 might be difficult to find further details for him. Sometimes though you can get some clues by going sideways...
There is a Robert Currie, a peer to John. Could he be a brother? From 1851:
Robert Currie 66 Baron Officer b. Eaglesham
Elizabeth Currie 50
Susan Currie 38
Robert Currie 33
Janet R Currie 16
Hugh Currie 13
Address: Polnoon St 31, Eaglesham
John and wife Ann showed next door at No.30 that year didn't they. John's occupation given then as spirit dealer public house.
If Robert died post 1855, you might get further clues re potential parents to John?
Monica :)
PS: what is the reference to Watson?
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John married Elizabeth 06 Nov 1803 and Anne in 19 Feb 1830.
There were three families of Currie's in Eaglesham, but your John may not have been baptised well at least not in the Established Church.
There was considerable upheaval within the church at this time re the appointment of Thomas Clark as Minister, so much so a large portion of the membership broke off and established their own church. You can see its effects of this in the records. For example, there are only 3 recorded Currie births between 1770-1790 and only 272 births were recorded for everyone in the entire Parish. You might find his baptism in the non conformist records held in Edinburgh.
However, John might be the son of Robert Currie and Jean Hamilton who married in 1770. I mention this as one of John's children was named Hamilton and I spotted a daughter named Jean but there is no way to prove this connection only speculation. You can try matching the birth of the children to see if it follows the Scot's naming pattern which might add support to this speculation.
Don
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Thanks all for posting.
I think Robert Currie and wife who married in 1770 are the right parents - but unproven at the moment.
Robert Currie, the next door neighbour in 1851 sounds like a brother to me. I think his parents name could be given on death certificate. I wonder if he is stiil alive in 1861?
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I think Robert Currie may have died in Eaglesham in 1859.
Isobel
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Death certificate for Robert Currie in 1859 father Robert mother Jean Hamilton on Ancestry
Address as Monica has posted
Rosie
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Robert Currie married Elizabeth Fulton 8 November 1811 Eaglesham Renfrewshire she died 1872
Widow of Robert Currie Baron officer
Rosie
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thanks for this. I am fairly sure these are the right folks. In fact I think, these Currie brothers married Fulton sisters back in the early 1800's
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I did see the reference to Elizabeth Fulton for Robert Currie's wife. The thing that threw me was that was the same name of John's first wife.... ::)
Monica
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Link to a previous post about this family
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=581866.msg4335211#msg4335211
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I did see the reference to Elizabeth Fulton for Robert Currie's wife. The thing that threw me was that was the same name of John's first wife.... ::)
Monica
Yes Monica very confusing
Rosie
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John,
Do you have access to FindMyPast or any newspaper site?
There are a few articles in various newspapers but there is one interesting article in The Stirling Observer relating to this family.
It is dated 14 Nov 1867
It is about a family reunion of 104 people, representing 9, families, all descended from " A Novel Character" named JOHN Currie of Eaglesham.
The article gives no indication of when this man died, or if the descendents were children, grandchildren etc, but at a guess, it probably relates the man who died in 1854
It was Robert Currie of Eaglesham who presided and was supported by 4 younger brothers.
It suggests that at 1867, the late John Currie had 5 surviving sons
( I presume this is the case, although it's not absolutely clear)
Due to T&Cs, I cannot post the article on here but, I can provide you with it if you contact me by PM with an email address
The 1872 death announcement for Elizabeth Fulton, widow of Robert Currie appears in The Glasgow Herald dated 20 May 1872 and is found on page 5
Note that Australian and US papers were asked to copy.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=18720520&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
EDIT:
1854 death of John Currie also appears in Glasgow Herald dated 16 Oct.
Also on page 5 and can be found using above link.( alter the year search)
Also, if his eldest son was named Robert as per the 1867 article, it suggests that Robert would be the name of John's own father which fits with DonMs post at 17.12
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hi all
Fantastic posts thanks. I have sent a PM.
Will get back once I've read these.
John
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The information I have on John Currie & Elizabeth Fulton's children is:
Katherine 1804-1878 married John Watson 1826
Robert 1806-1870 married Agnes Ross 1832
Jean 1808-
John 1810-1884 married Margaret Spence 1832
William 1812-1893 married 1. Janet Cameron 1836 2. Mary Hynds 1851 (in Shotts)
James 1815-
Hamilton 1818-1870 married Isabella Maxwell 1843, Glasgow
Elizabeth 1820-1875 married Peter McFarlane 1841
Betsy 1823-1896 married Matthew Shields Bannatyne 1846 Glasgow
Matthew 1826-1897 married Helen McKie 1851
The names of the older children seem to indicate that they did follow the Scottish naming pattern & there's certainly enough of them for there to be a major family reunion!
Blanche
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Hi Blanche
Do you have any old photographs of any of them? I have none.
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We are descended from Katherine and John
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How odd?
I have just realised that John Currie b 1833, son of Robert Currie with Agnes Ross appears in my OWN tree.
John married in 1856 and his daughter Mary also born in 1856 married into my family in 1881
Over the years, I have had many discussions about this relative who was Mary's husband.
His marriage to Mary Currie and his death both state that his parents were the brother of my gg grandfather and his wife.
He was definitely not a biological child !
Mary's husband was informally adopted by my relatives.
There is NO birth record.
He appears as an infant ( nurse child) with these parents,entered with his birth name and on all following returns, the same child in still in the household and using their surname.
I have done a vast amount of research on my family and the evidence suggests quite clearly that this child ( husband of Mary Currie) was not afforded the same privileges as the biological children.
This man did not name any of his children for his "father"
He did have a son given the same name as a younger "brother" but this "brother" was also extremely well known
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I'm afraid not. Agnes Ross, who married Robert, was my 3x great aunt so not exactly a close connection! I followed the Curries because the Ross family were also from Eaglesham & there might have been other connections. I've not found any so far & most of them moved to Glasgow. However, I must follow up the Stirling Observer article, Robert & Agnes might have been there.
Good hunting, Blanche
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Thanks.
There is an obelisk in Eaglesham churchyard erected around about the same time as the family reunion. Apparently someone had a ticket inviting them... it is now sadly lost.
John Currie was proprietor of Swan Inn which is still there. Katherine his daughter died in 1874 or 76.
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Blanched,
You may wish to check this marriage as this John Currie appears in my tree as the son of Robert Currie and Agnes Ross.
(Ist son named Robert and 2nd daughter named Agnes Ross Currie)
Elisezebth Higgins
Gender Female
Marriage Date 04 Jul 1856
Marriage Place Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
FHL Film Number 6035516
Household Members
Name Age
Elisezebth Higgins
John Currie
Birth of elder daughter who married my adopted relative:
Mary Mckimmie Currie
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1856
Birth Place: Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Father: John Currie
Mother: Elizabeth Higgins
Birth of son:
Robert Currie
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Jun 1858
Birth Place: Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Father: John Currie
Mother: Elizabeth Higgins
Birth of younger daughter
Agnes Ross Currie ****
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 24 Nov 1860
Birth Place: Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Father: John Currie
Mother: Elizabeth Higgins
1861:
23 Green Street, Bridgeton
John Currie 27 b Eaglesham
Elizabeth Currie 25
Mary Mckinnie Currie 4
Robert Currie 2
Agnes Ross Currie
1881:
44 Dalmarnock Road
Same address on 1881 marrige of daughter Mary
John Currie 48 b Eaglesham
Elizabeth Currie 46
Mary Currie 24 **
Robert Currie 22
Peter Currie 17
Elizabeth Currie 11
John Currie 8
William Currie 5
Donald Currie 2
(John Currie died 30 sep 1893 at above address)
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Blanched,
The article in the Stirling Observer had no connection to Stirling.
It was simply copied from the Glasgow Mail and entered into this newspaper.
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Hi Anne
You know me under another name! We have spoken about our families and have indeed met. I'll PM you.
Blanche
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Doh! Blanched???
Of course ! I know who you are now.
I should have realised before......The Ross families !
Going out now but will talk to you later.
Anne
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My Currie / Watson pair left Eaglesham and moved in to Glasgow, mostly East end until they died. I think John Watson worked in a cotton mill.
I imagine Katherine kept in touch with her siblings located nearby.
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Regarding John Currie and Elizabeth Fulton. I think Robert Currie and Jean Hamilton are his parents.
Anyone have an idea of who Elizabeth's parents are?
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Regarding John Currie and Elizabeth Fulton. I think Robert Currie and Jean Hamilton are his parents.
Anyone have an idea of who Elizabeth's parents are?
Not sure about parents for this Elizabeth ...but death certificate for the Elizabeth Fulton married to Robert Currie has her mother as Susana Clark father Andrew Fulton
Rosie
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Regarding the Currie's mentioned above who moved from Eaglesham into Glasgow. Any idea where they are buried ... if they died in Glasgow?