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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: marycalder on Thursday 17 November 16 13:23 GMT (UK)
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Looking for James Calder born about 1857 and spouse Catherine Kirkcaldie born 1865 in Scotland. They lived a short while in Australia then moved to America about 1903. They are in the Ohio 1920 census. What children were born in Australia and which in Scotland?
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If you search the NSW indexes there are two possible children in 1888 and 1891, but you would have to get the certificates to know if it is your couple.
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search
Are they not on the 1910 census?
Debra :)
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Is this them in 1910 claiming to all be born in Scotland?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23054-15472-21?cc=1727033
Debra :)
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Good find, Debra.
Interesting to note that the immigration date (into US) for James and Catherine is listed as 1903 and for the four eldest children the date is 1904.
Judith
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I'll have to look up those links but yes they are in the 1910 census but I've been told by a family member they had 7 living children but so many are with them in 1910. I also have been made aware that Catherine returned to Scotland to bring her mother to live with them. I've just begun the search for this family. They are my husbands grandparents and father, aunts and uncles. At 78 he's suddenly gotten interested and wants this information for his children and great grandchildren. Just hunting in the dark and have suddenly started find them. Thank you all so much. Any other links and information will be greatly appreciated.
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1910 census shows 6 children
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A relative looking for them actually made information available that has lead here and other places with her information posted as part of her hunt. I had to laugh; when they first came to America they were in Deposit, NY. I'm assuming the children listed on the census were born there. That was the last place the Scottish family knew where they were. We didn't know they had ever lived there as my husband's father grew up in Middletown, Ohio. The laugh was-my grandmother was born in Deposit, NY and had many family members still living there when this family would have lived there. Our families of a century ago probably knew each other. We didn't meet until 2009 and married in 2010. In the 1910 census his father and family were still in Deposit, NY.
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The 2 youngest seem to have been born in NY. By 1920 they are in the Middletown, Ohio Federal census. Now to find the children and who they married and where they went. Then on to find the family in Scotland before immigrating to America. I'm still hunting for my greatgrandfather in Scotland before he immigrated .
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This family can be found on the 1901 census living 231, Church Street, Glasgow, Maryhill, Lanarkshire, Scotland. According to the transcription on FindMyPast son James (17) and daughter Maggie (17) were born Burntisland (same place as James and Catherine's marriage in 1882). Thomas (11) and Mary (9) are both showing born in Australia while Elizabeth (5)was born in Leith....Have you seen the original census?
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no I haven't seen that. I'm just starting to look for my husbands family in Scotland. I have no idea of where to look or how to look. I just know I'd like to have it put together for him while he can appreciate it. He has early stage dimensia. He wants the info for his daughter and her grand kids.
I appreciate the help here.
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Hi,
IF the couple on the 1901 are the correct folks you could get their marriage certificate from ScotlandsPeople website which would give you their parents. You can search for free but you need to buy credits to view the marriage certificate. https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Jen
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Have found some more links for the family,
1920
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDPR-W35
Marriage for Mary Stewart Calder born 1891 Australia 19 June 1912
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XDKL-T8L
Marriage for Margaret born Scotland 1884
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NQB8-BCJ
1920 James death parents James Calder and Mary Findley
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X8GZ-QFZ
If you sign in, the certificate is online
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Parents are mentioned, same as death certificate
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iwa/
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This border crossing gives details for Catherine
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK31-S2BB
James hubby in Buffalo New York
Mothe Margaret Dollan
Catherine sailed June 1906 Corinthian to
There are others but haven't gone through them all but want to point this one out
James Calder Imm May 1904 (on passenger list) Corinthian
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK3Y-H26F
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Willsy, these are great finds.
I notice that Catherine's birthplace is listed on her card as Burnt Isles, Scotland which may help find her birth. There are places in Scotland which may fit -
Burntisland is a royal burgh and parish in Fife, Scotland, on the shore of the Firth of Forth.
Also google comes up with Burnt Isles in the Kyles of Bute, but there seems little information about it.
Judith
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Hi,
As mentioned at reply 8 - James and Catherine look to be have been married in 1882 at Burntisland - it's the one in Fife and the marriage can easily be found on ScotlandsPeople. Catherine's name is listed as Kirkcaldy - with a 'y'. The certificate will give both sets of parents. The first two children look to have been born at Burntisland...
Jen
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Just to add,
As SP is not how it was, do not input 'Spouse Surname' as it won't show!
Just put Calder & James (Fife)
KIRKCALDY
CATHERINE
1882
411/ 21
Burntisland
Annie
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A few links which may help later...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=502394.400
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=618779.msg5732111#msg5732111
http://www.genealogytoday.com/surname/finder.mv?Surname=Kirkcaldy
Annie
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wow. Thanks everyone. I don't have a credit card so I can't get points on the Scotland site but every bit of help is really appreciated. Mary
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Hi,
You only need a debit card & the only way to find out both parent's names including both mother's maiden names is to access the marriage cert. & SP is the only place you will get that info unfortunately at very low cost in comparison with any other online sites.
Annie
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I'll check on that. Thanks . My husband is so thrilled with the info that has been found. Some is more than the family here ever knew.
Mary