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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: Gerry Burroughs on Saturday 05 November 16 23:23 GMT (UK)
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Hallo my Granny was Jane Blake Nee Devlin whose father Terence Devlin owned the shoe shop at 14 Falls Road. The shop was right beside the the Clonard picture house. I believe the family moved to Spinner St just a couple of streets away. My mother visited this family quite often and I remember a John Devlin was a regular visitor to my Granny Janes house in Broadway. They had some of the family immigrate to America as I remember going to Spinner St to watch some movie film of their new life there. I am doing a family tree at the minute and have just started looking at my Grannys side of the family. Best Regards. Gerry
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Bethcleary hasn't been online since 2009 but this is the Devlin family in 1911 census- looks like Terence Devlin was married at least twice since says married 6 years-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Smithfield/Falls_Road/186904
In 1901 with wife Maggie-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Smithfield/Falls_Road/952802
PRONI Will Extract- Devlin Terence of 14 Falls Road Belfast boot and shoe maker died 20 February 1927 at Royal Victoria Hospital Belfast Probate Belfast 1 April to Mary Ann Madden married woman. Effects £465 6s. 3d. (still at Falls Road address)
Wife Mary L. died earlier- Administration of the Estate of Mary L. Devlin late of 14 Falls Road Belfast who died 23 June 1916 granted at Belfast to Terence Devlin Shoemaker the Husband
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Many thanks indeed for this information. I often wondered why my grandfather in broadway had a lot of shoe repair equipment kept in the coal hole in the house because he had nothing to do with shoe repairs, it must have been his wife Jane who is is the 1901 census that brought them to the house when Terence Devlin died or gave up the shop. I remember the family from a house in Spinner St in the late 1950s and certainly remember the shop opposite the Falls road library which when I went to St Finians was a children,s shop for many years. many thanks indeed for putting me on the right track and if you come across any further information on the Devlin family I would be only to grateful if you could pass it on to me.
Very best regards.
Gerry
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Could this be the Spinner St. connection?
Devlin Peter of 7 Spinner Street Belfast tramway employee died 3 March 1939 at Belfast Administration Belfast 26 May to Sarah Devlin the widow. Effects £379 3s. 3d.
Although, looking at the census he's born Cookstown and your Terence Devlin born Co.Tyrone-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls/Spinner_Street/174570
His father also Peter Devlin (a bundler)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10386/5781845.pdf
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1918 directory- Falls Rd.: 14. Devlin, T., boot and shoe maker
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/fcomplete1918.htm
Mrs. Curran at that address in 1943 directory
1943- Spinner Street (from 156 Falls Road to Lower Clonard Street)
7. Devlin, Mrs. Sarah
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/scomplete1943.htm
1960- 7 Spinner St.- Miss Margaret Devlin
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/images/1960BSD/1960strs%200355.jpg
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I remember a Sarah Devlin, my mother would mention we were going to visit a Sarah Devlin. The house was on the right hand side of Spinner street about half way down. I had no idea the family had Cookstown connections until I seen your message and the Census papers you very kindly provided. But yes the name Sarah Devlin was the lady we visited. I cant remember if John Devlin lived in the same house but he did call to Broadway very often. He appears to be the youngest of Terence Devlins children. I really appreciate your help, no one has ever provided me with such help before and I cannot thank you enough.
Best Regards
Gerry
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Jane Devlin married 1905 Michael Blake-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c0c3e07257170
1911 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Caher/Quay_Street/102420
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More children-
Martin James (1906 at 48 Jocelyn Ave., Belfast)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/a254ef2625165
Margaret (1907 at 110 Jocelyn Ave., Belfast)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/2c9ece3323788
Bridget Mary (1909)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/5569e45734250
Mary Anne (1910)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/5855914111371
Johanna (1912)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/88bdc56334076
Michael Terence (1913)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c9bead1457188
Kathleen (1915)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/781a442439328
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1907 directory- Jocelyn Ave.: 48. Blake, Michael, R.I.C
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ijkcomplete1907.htm
1908 directory- Jocelyn Ave.: 110. Blake, M., R.I.C.
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ijkcomplete1908.htm
Michael Blake in 1901?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Navan_Urban/Watergate_Street/1618162
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It's possible that the John Devlin you remember was the son of Peter and Sarah rather than Terence's son.
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Well what can I say? this is amazing. I had no idea that 2 of my grandads children were born in Belfast!! another shock or puzzle was the birth of Kathleen Blake, I new her as Aunt Nellie?? she was married in England to a William Hills. I have just seen your your latest update which suggests John Devlin was Sarah,s son, I think you may be right there. I am totally taken back by the amount of information you have provided, I never knew where my Grandfather lived when he was posted to Belfast!! now I know thanks to you and your expertise. The information regarding the police station he was in is the only one that may be wrong as he was born in Kilbaha Co Clare and his father had a small farm there. I must admit that that part of the world has Blake families by the square inch and I even travelled down there to see what I could find out, I did find the family home (Unoccupied) and owned by a Blake family but who apparently are not the same Blakes!! so my family tree was very thin on the ground, that is until you so kindly filled in a awful lot of information which I never had. So really I find all this a new start for me which I can never thank you enough. Best Regards Gerry
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Oh there's lots more I've found on the Devlins but will need a little while to type it all out :)
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Thank you so much :)
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Looks like Terence Devlin didn't move directly from Tyrone to Belfast as 2 daughters born Antrim town!
Terence Devlin (c1858? Cookstown, Co.Tyrone-20 Feb.1927), shoemaker, son of Patrick Devlin (d.bef.1905), m.1 Margaret “Maggie” Henry (c1861 Cookstown-1901/1906); m.2 (23 Apr.1905) Mary L. “Minnie” Kirk (c1870 Armagh-23 June 1916)
Possible marriage (1876 Cookstown) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/f5a75513362198
Marriage (1905) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/b0cd557258266
Administration of the Estate of Mary L. Devlin late of 14 Falls Road Belfast who died 23 June 1916 granted at Belfast to Terence Devlin Shoemaker the Husband
Devlin Terence of 14 Falls Road Belfast boot and shoe maker died 20 February 1927 at Royal Victoria Hospital Belfast Probate Belfast 1 April to Mary Ann Madden married woman. Effects £465 6s. 3d.
1. Patrick Devlin (7 Aug.1877 Co.Tyrone-aft.1911), shoemaker
Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNP-V74
2. Mary Ann Devlin (7 Feb.1880 Church St., Antrim-aft.1911), dressmaker, m. Madden?
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1891096471463
3. Jane Devlin (5 May 1882 Church St., Antrim) m.(1905 Belfast) Michael Blake- family
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/dfa78b1485636
4. Pauline Mary Devlin (8 July 1906 Belfast-3 Oct.1907)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/00b0665405961
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/21786110762002
5. Patricia Josephine Devlin (17 Mar.1908 Belfast-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4ee2b25973725
6. Terence Devlin (9 Mar.1909 Belfast-16 Apr.1910)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/0760853312819
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/6d638910483764
7. John Devlin (6 Apr.1910 Belfast-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/5ba38a4170303
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Peter Devlin (c1875 Cookstown-3 Mar.1939) m.(1899) Sarah O’Neill (c1865 Cookstown-aft.1943?). 1904/1906- 20 Cairns St.
Marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10386/5781845.pdf
Devlin Peter of 7 Spinner Street Belfast tramway employee died 3 March 1939 at Belfast Administration Belfast 26 May to Sarah Devlin the widow. Effects £379 3s. 3d.
1. Margaret Mary Devlin (31 Aug.1900 Belfast-aft.1960?)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/a4e2bc2770376
2. Peter Devlin (28 May 1902 Belfast-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/6e95673495864
3. Mary Devlin (7 Feb.1904 Belfast-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/654cf02946993
4. Rose Ann Devlin (3 Mar.1906 Belfast-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/daf6222666402
5. John Devlin (31 July 1908 Belfast-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4090e93200037
6. James Devlin (19 Nov.1910 Belfast-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/907d813902582
7. Sarah Devlin (6 Oct.1912)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/9ba0f25555984
8. Helen Devlin (8 Aug.1915)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/2d62b32356331
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seems to be the same couple,but different years.
Marriage 22-Oct-1903 BELFAST Co. Antrim
Husband
Michael Blake Jennie Devlin
Address: Springfield Road Falls Road Denomination:Roman Catholic
Occupation: POLICEMAN
SHOP GIRL
Both of Full Age (Over 21)
Status:Bachelor Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father
Wife's Father
Name:MartinBlake
Terence Devlin
Occupation:FARMER
SHOEMAKER
Witness Name:Daniel Fox
Mary Devlin
Church: BELFAST Roman Catholic REV B J LAVERTY MARRIED IN ST BRIDGET'S.
Date of Marriage:04-May-1905
Parish / District:BELFAST County: Co. Antrim
HusbandWife
Name:Michael Blake JaneDevlin Address:Springfield Road 14 Falls Rd
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Occupation:POLICEMAN
SALESWOMAN Full Age (Over 21)
Full Age (Over 21) Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father Wife's Father Name:Martin Blake
Terence Devlin Occupation:FARMER
SHOEMAKER
Husband's Mother
Wife's Mother
Name:
Witness Name:Daniel Fox Mary Devlin Address:
Church: BELFAST Roman Catholic
REV B LAVERTY MARRIED AT ST PETER'S.
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could be Terence's two marriages.
Date of Marriage:06-Sep-1876
Parish / District:COOKSTOWN
County:TYRONE
Husband
Wife
Name:TerenceDevlin
Margaret Henry Address: Cookstown Chapel Side
Occupation:SHOE MAKER
Age:22
22
Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)
Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father
Wife's Father
Name:Patrick Devlin
John Henry
Occupation:SHOE MAKER
LABOURER
Witness Name:William Devlin Susan Devlin
MARRIED IN COOKSTOWN RC CHAPEL, PARISH OF COOKSTOWN. BOTH AGES .GIVEN
AS FULL OVER 21. HUSBAND'S FATHER GIVEN AS DECEASED.
Date of Marriage:23-Apr-1905
Parish / District:BELFAST County:Co. Antrim
Name:Terence Devlin Mary Kirk
Address:14 Falls Road 171 Divis Street
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Roman Catholic
Occupation:SHOEMAKER
ASSISTANT
Age:Full Age (Over 21)Full Age (Over 21)
Status:Widower (Male)
Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father
Wife's Father Patrick Devlin
John Kirk
MERCHANT
Witness Name:William Gallagher
Laura McWilliams
Church: BELFAST Roman Catholic
REV J OBRIEN MARRIED IN SACRED HEART CHURCH MGR: HUSBAND'S FATHER
DECEASED.
maybe a baptism for Terence.
Name:Terence Devlin
Date of Baptism:03-Feb-1856
Address:Parish/District:COOKSTOWN
County TYRONE
Father:Patrick Devlin
Mother:Anne Langford
Informant 1:John
Informant 2:Margaret Devlin
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I am really puzzled here about the marriage of my Granny Jane and Michael Blake. One document appears to show the couple marrying in St Peters and the other in St Bridgets. The name Jennie Blake is used on the St Bridgets marriage and funny enough it is used for the birth of their daughter Margaret on the 7th Aug 1907. the address is given as 110 Jocelyn Avenue. On the Birth of Martin James on the 2nd Apr 1906 the mother is Jane Blake nee Devlin but the address here is 49 Jocelyn Avenue.?? I know st Bridgets as I was baptised there myself but they are nearly on opposite sides of Belfast. Really strange especially as the midwife is the same for both Ann Mc Kenna 21 Khartou ??? ???m St !!
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I suspect the 1st marriage (1903) was Michael Blake marrying without permission which meant they went through another ceremony a few years later.
Jennie is a nickname for Jane so perhaps the family called her Jennie.
It wasn't uncommon for people to move from one rented accommodation to another quite frequently.
Khartoum Street - Ann McKenna at #21
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ijkcomplete1907.htm
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Link to 1903 Blake/Devlin marriage-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/dd3ca37293688
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Looks like Peter Devlin's father and sisters also lived Spinner St.-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Falls_Ward/Spinner_Street/981191
Father died 1909 and had son Thomas Devlin, 19 Spinner St.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1882a610649320
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls/Tralee_Street/174955
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Falls_Ward/Tralee_Street/981572
more to come...
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Thats incredible, I can remember my Granny more than my grandfather she was a great person. I dont know if you can help me with the next question or how I would find out about it. After 1922 my grandad could not return to his family home in Kilbaha, so they went to England to live for how long I do not know before returning to Belfast. My mother told me that a brother of my grandfather who I can find no record of was a priest in America. Father Joseph Blake apparently he had arranged for the family to move to the USA to start a new life there. Unfortunately they got a letter from the Parish priest of the parish out there to say Father Joseph Blake had died and that any arrangements he had made for them could not be continued with. His photo hung up in my grandfathers home in Broadway and he appeared to be very young. I have done the usual google searches and other websites but cannot find a Father Joseph Blake. Can you advise me where I should be looking for him.?? I am printing out all the information you sent me and really I cannot thank you enough especially finding out that my Grandfather and Jane married twice!! Thank you Gerry
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More on Devlin family-
Patrick Devlin (c1842-1909 Belfast) m. Rose Anne Lamb (d.bef.1901)
Death (Patrick) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1882a610649320
1. Peter Devlin (15 Feb.1865 Tyrone) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5PB-MR8
2. Ellen Devlin (11 May 1866 Tyrone-aft.1911)
Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F59G-GYY
1911- with sister Margaret Donnelly
3. Thomas Devlin (14 Apr.1869) m. Elizabeth “Lizzie” (c1870 Co.Tyrone-aft.1911)
Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP6H-2HF
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Falls_Ward/Tralee_Street/981572
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls/Tralee_Street/174955
1. Charles Devlin (c1897 Co.Tyrone-aft.1911)
2. Rosann Devlin (c1902 Belfast-aft.1911)
3. Lizzie Devlin (c1906 Belfast-aft.1911)
4. Matilda Devlin (21 Nov.1870 Tyrone-1907) m.(24 Dec.1900) John Sandford
Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPY5-BLB
Marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/b0513e7369157
1907- 12 Sevastapool St.
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/32384110793212
1. Matthew Sandford (17 Dec.1905 Belfast-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/3c94952666190
5. Joseph Devlin (6 Sept.1872 Cookstown)
Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPY6-VQ7
6. Margaret Devlin (7 Oct.1874 Tyrone-aft.1911) m.(c1899) William John Donnelly. 1 child d.bef.1911.
Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPMP-ZG9
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls/Spinner_Street/174558
7. Peter Devlin (16 Aug.1877 Kirktown) m.(1899) Sarah O’Neill
Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNP-P9B
8. Patrick Devlin (17 Mar.1879 Blackhile?)
Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGJW-2PR
9. Mary Devlin (c1883 Tyrone-aft.1901)
Will look for Blake family now ;)
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Thank you so much :D
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Do you have any more information on Michael Blake's parents as I've found a few leads but worried about following wrong family. His mother's name would be a huge help but I realise you might not have that.
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I am nearly sure it was Bridget Cahill and his father,s name was Martin. These were the names I heard from my mother. Gerry
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Yes, thought I'd narrowed down to correct Blake family.... more in a bit
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Many many thanks. Gerry
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Wasn't online yesterday but did a good bit of searching with mixed results :-\
Martin Blake (d.1902), Kiltrellig, m.(Feb.1853 Carrigaholt) Bridget “Biddy” Cahill (d.1920), Kilcridane
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don_tran/bmd/marriage_records_carrigaholt_transcriptions.htm
death (1902) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/cd83cf11305006
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Kilballyowen/Kiltrellig/362912/
death (1920) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/b7d6a69705414
1. Margaret Blake bpt 4 Oct.1854 Carrigaholt
2. Honor Blake bpt 24 Sept.1857 Carrigaholt
3. Michael Blake bpt 4 Aug.1859 Carrigaholt (Cabet)
4. James Blake bpt 4 June 1863 Carrigaholt
? death (1887) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/ec84d115349325
5. Martin Blake bpt 23 July 1865 Carrigaholt
? death (1926) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4dfe359410315
6. Johanna Blake (1867-aft.1911) m.(29 Jan.1904) Michael Lynch
bpt 7 Aug.1867 Carrigaholt (birth: Ioney)
marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/5d23097290952
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Rahona/Rehy_West/360217
7. Ellen Blake (15 Sept.1869)
8. Michael Blake bpt 1 Sept.1871 Carrigaholt m. Jane Devlin
9. Daniel Blake (c1873-13 Apr.1950) m. Dorothy E.
bpt 3 May 1873 Carrigaholt
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Kilballyowen/Kiltrellig/1077350
10. Kate/Catherine Blake (2 Mar.1876)
? death (1878) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/ef6c7816086203
I found no trace of a Joseph Blake in baptisms or birth registrations. Also checked U.S. census records, passenger manifests and newspaper reports for Father Blake in America. If he was a brother of Michael's perhaps he acquired the name Joseph when he was ordained.
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Thank you so much for all the trouble you have gone to especially on Father Joseph Blake. As i said earlier his photo hung up in the wall of my grandads house and my mother and her sister,s would relate the stories of their past including their time in Killorglin where 8 police were killed in a ambush and several wounded, my mother recalls the bodies been brought into the Barracks. Another time they would discuss Dunmanway when they had a private house to live in there, the housekeeper told my grandfather that her son led an IRA unit and they were intending to try and kill him. apparently a group of men came over a small bridge near the house and tried to force their way in. at that stage my grandfather had all his family upstairs and the youngest were under a bed. he smashed an upstairs window directly above the men with his revolver, the men fired a number of shots through the door and made off across the bridge. I believe he served in both stations for awhile before been moved to West Cork. He is listed in a book "Beleaguered" which shows his service and pension. It is only recently I found an old piece of paper in my mothers old purse which actually showed the address he and his family went to in England. 47 The Avenue. Ramsey Huntingdon. Its strange this because they never spoke of their time in England and I dont even know how long they stayed there before returning to Belfast. The birth of a Kathleen on the 11th Feb 1915 in Caherciveen really has me puzzled as they had 2 further children Victor Blake who died in 1968 in Belfast I have no idea where he was born and my Aunt Nellie who married a William Hills in London sometime after 1945. I am not sure if this is Kathleen who preferred to be known as Nellie as she spent her life in London or did they have an additional 2 children after his postings to Dunmanway and Kilorglin. The Blakes are a real mystery to be sure!!! but I really cant thank you enough for all the research you have done for me. Gerry
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Closest I can come for a birth in Ireland is Victor Valentine Blake (1919 Killarney)-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1MM-6M5
Birth index for England (FreeBMD) list mother's maiden name and I can't see any matches there.
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Yes I do believe that is him ok. Is there any information like a birth cert available? Gerry
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Hi everyone I have at last found the grave of my great grandad Terence Devlin and his wife. There was some surprising names on this grave like Mary Ann Madden Daniel Madden and John Devlin who was last on the head stone also was a Laura Gallagher 8/01/ 1912 Can anyone tell me if John Devlin who died 9/6/1989 have any children?? and what are the family connections with the other names ??
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Laura Gallagher 8/01/ 1912
Death in 1912-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05376/4499751.pdf
With husband and family in 1911-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls/Cavendish_Street/172797/ (born Co. Tyrone, married 6 years)
Birth of son James Gallagher lists her maiden name as McWilliams-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1906/01732/1684716.pdf
Marriage of William James Gallagher & widow Laura McWilliams gives her father's name as John Kirk-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10179/5703689.pdf
John McWilliams & wife Laura in 1901-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Duncairn_Ward__Belfast/Whitla_Street/933235/
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Closest I can come for a birth in Ireland is Victor Valentine Blake (1919 Killarney)-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1MM-6M5
Is there any information like a birth cert available? Gerry
Born 8 August 1919 at Killorglin.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1919/01228/1511044.pdf
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Just looking at the photo I took this morning of the head stone. It says that Laura Gallagher is his Sister in law ?? Daniel Madden is his son in law died 10th june 1948 and his daughter Mary Ann Madden. ??
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Where exactly is this headstone located?
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Just looking at the photo I took this morning of the head stone. It says that Laura Gallagher is his Sister in law ?? Daniel Madden is his son in law died 10th june 1948 and his daughter Mary Ann Madden. ??
A bit hard to follow. Can you please post wording from gravestone.
Daniel Madden is his son in law died 10th june 1948
Age 79 according to GRONI's index.
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It says that Laura Gallagher is his Sister in law ??
Makes sense- see reply #13 which says Terence Devlin's second wife was Mary L. Kirk.
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starting at the top.
Erected By
Terence Devlin
in loving memory of his son
Terence. Died 15th April 1910
Also his sister in law.
Laura Gallagher. died 8th January 1912
Also his wife Winnie. Died 23rd June 1916
Also the above named. Terence Devlin. Died 20th Feb 1927.
Also his daughter Mary Ann Madden. Died 15th Nov 1931.
Also his son in law Daniel Madden Died 10th June 1948
Also his son John Devlin. Died 9th June 1989.
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I need a little help once again. I have been told that John Devlin married Nora Savage in 1937. They had 2 children Mary and Nora. I know about Mary but all I know is Nora was born about 1940. I have been looking without success for a Birth Certificate For Nora. Can you help me out here. Many thanks Gerry
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Data protection legislation in NI states that if you are using the internet to search the register, some of the records in GRONI will not be available to view.
Births – from 1864 to 100 years ago (i.e. current day 1925 in 2025)
If you don’t have all the information, you need to get in touch with GRONI to have a search done. The contact details for ringing or e-mailing GRONI:
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/contacts/contacts-az/general-register-office-northern-ireland
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Many thanks I will do that. Cheers Gerry
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Still searching for information !! I am looking for details of Peter Scanlon who married an American lady called Katherine Graham possibly in Dublin prewar. Is it possible to obtain from Irish records.??
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Still searching for information !! I am looking for details of Peter Scanlon who married an American lady called Katherine Graham possibly in Dublin prewar. Is it possible to obtain from Irish records.??
Only thing close I can find is a 1942 marriage for a Peter Scanlon to Kathleen O'Brien-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1942/08801/5181632.pdf
(Searching all Ireland 1911-1945)
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The information I have is Peter Scanlon was already married to this lady and they brought a child from a couple in Belfast ( The father was my Grannies Brother) to Plymouth in 1940 to have it officially adopted but the documents they left with the City Hall which was bombed and these were lost. Peter Scanlon was about 23 yrs old then when he was marrried to this lady who appears to have been very wealthy and was incapaciated and was in a wheel chair. There isa suggestion he may have been in the Royal Navy but I doubt this as his wife needed care and it may have he worked in the Dock Yards there. They later bought house in Dublin.
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Was it Plymouth City Hall that was supposed to have been bombed? I can't find any mention of that online.
Belfast City Hall was damaged in 1941 but not sure if any records were lost.
If the child was officially adopted is England would there not be a new birth certificate issue in England with the name of child, date of birth and 'new' parents? You could check the index here-
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/search
Have you looked for Peter Scanlon and wife in 1939 Register?
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What I know is the center of Plymouth destroyed in the Bombing along with the documents and when they returned to Dublin that problem was never resolved. A priest considered that because of the childs treatment by this couple recommended she should be removed from them and so she was. Infact they wrote several letters to the effect they lost the documents in a fire in Plymouth. Apparently this couple thought they couldnt have their own children which they did later on and thats the reason they tried to parent the child. This lady appeared to be a wealthy american who used her money to purchase everything.
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Sending PM as this person might still be living.