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Title: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: LizFox on Thursday 03 November 16 07:18 GMT (UK)
Hi.  I'm looking at Andrew DOUGLAS or DOUGLASS living in Yorkshire and he was born in a place that looks like Kastanglen.  Has anyone got any ideas please.  Thanks all.


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Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 03 November 16 07:42 GMT (UK)
The 1851 census suggests that he was born in Edinburgh.

Below is a link to Towns and Villages in Scotland beginning with K

http://www.ukwebindex.co.uk/townandvillage/Scotland/K/

I can't see anything that looks like the place named in the census record.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: LizFox on Thursday 03 November 16 08:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks.  I hadn't found him in 1851.  Will take a look - am using FindMyPast so hopefully it's there.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 03 November 16 08:53 GMT (UK)
That's where I found the 1851 census.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Millmoor on Thursday 03 November 16 09:07 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage Apr - Jun 1848 Knaresborough  as Andrew Douglas ( wife perhaps Mary Ann Pickard).

William
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 03 November 16 10:00 GMT (UK)
Possibly this is Rutherglen, Lanarkshire.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: LizFox on Thursday 03 November 16 10:09 GMT (UK)
That's him.  Millmoor.  Thanks
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: LizFox on Thursday 03 November 16 10:10 GMT (UK)
Rutherglen.  Wow, thanks Skoosh.  Will take another look.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: LizFox on Thursday 03 November 16 10:12 GMT (UK)
Looking at the map, he could say Edinburgh if it's Rutherglen.  Does anybody else agree it may say Rutherglen?
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Millmoor on Thursday 03 November 16 11:14 GMT (UK)
There is an entry in the 1841 census in Edinburgh for an Andrew Douglas aged 15.Address 7 Ponton Street
Others in household
George 41
Thomas 22
George 20
Frederick 13
Hugh 10
James 8
John 3

Possible entry in 1871 census for Frederick gives place of birth as Corstorphine (which is on the west side of Edinburgh). Mention this because when I first looked at the 1871 census for Andrew my initial thoughts were Rutherglen and,being an Edinburgh boy, thinking outside the box, Corstorphine.

William


Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Thursday 03 November 16 11:24 GMT (UK)
Kostorphin looks a good possibility.

Mike
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: LizFox on Thursday 03 November 16 11:43 GMT (UK)
Oh wow.  That's brilliant.  I've had this in my file for years - stuck.  And you've sorted it out in a morning.  What a novice I am!  Thank you all very very very much.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 03 November 16 14:04 GMT (UK)
A labourer from Corstorphine? changed days indeed!  ;D

Skoosh.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Thursday 03 November 16 15:38 GMT (UK)
A labourer from Corstorphine? changed days indeed!  ;D

Skoosh.

Indeed.
I briefly worked from an office on Corstorphine Road, opposite the zoo.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 03 November 16 21:21 GMT (UK)
Might that be the Forestry Commission Mike or have you signed the Official Secrets?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Thursday 03 November 16 21:29 GMT (UK)
Might that be the Forestry Commission Mike or have you signed the Official Secrets?

Skoosh.

It was exactly that.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 03 November 16 22:01 GMT (UK)
You'll have had your tree then?   ;D

Skoosh.
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: LizFox on Friday 04 November 16 09:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks again Millmoor.  I've ordered the marriage certificate so that I can find the information on his parents.  Will re-post when I have it.  Liz
Title: Re: 1861 Census - looks like Kastanglen, Scotland
Post by: Mike in Cumbria on Friday 04 November 16 15:36 GMT (UK)
You'll have had your tree then?   ;D

Skoosh.

Ha!  I was still working for the Commission when we had the first identified outbreaks of Ash dieback. Ministers demanded a report on the current spread of the disease by the following Tuesday (a stupid, politics-driven deadline), so we all worked our socks off putting in long days over the weekend (no overtime payment of course.) At the end of the data gathering, we were told that as a special recognition of all our hard work, we could all have a free Christmas tree!  Whoopee. A clear sign of bosses not knowing what goes on at ground (or forest) level.