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Title: Lambert lookup request
Post by: MattH on Tuesday 25 October 16 13:26 BST (UK)
I am researching a Patrick Lambert who was born in Ireland around 16 February 1870/71. (I've also seen it as far back as 1866 on one record.) His father's name is James. In 1883 or 84 Patrick immigrated to Pennsylvania. In his death certificate from 1915, it gives his father's name, but not his mother's. It also doesn't give any specific location in Ireland for his birth.
Can someone help me identify the birth location and mother's name for Patrick, please?
Thank you!

Matt
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 25 October 16 13:31 BST (UK)
 Birth results for Patrick Lambert from 1868 to 1872

Displaying results 1 - 7 of 7.    irishgenealogy

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iql/
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: MattH on Tuesday 25 October 16 14:02 BST (UK)
Thanks for the link. I looked through each record and no matches came up  :(
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 25 October 16 16:53 BST (UK)
 Marriage results for James Lambert from 1845 to 1868

Displaying results 1 - 4 of 4.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iqm/
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 25 October 16 16:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for the link. I looked through each record and no matches came up  :(

Did you change year range??
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: MattH on Tuesday 25 October 16 18:21 BST (UK)
Nope. I just clicked on the link and it had the seven results from your search. All of them had pictures available, and none of them had James as the father. It's my understanding that this database is still incomplete, so it's possible that another record exists outside of this database that would match what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 25 October 16 18:38 BST (UK)
I am researching a Patrick Lambert who was born in Ireland around 16 February 1870/71. (I've also seen it as far back as 1866 on one record.) His father's name is James. In 1883 or 84 Patrick immigrated to Pennsylvania. In his death certificate from 1915, it gives his father's name, but not his mother's. It also doesn't give any specific location in Ireland for his birth.
Can someone help me identify the birth location and mother's name for Patrick, please?
You might be going about this the wrong way for the moment.
If he was born c1870 and went to America c1884 it's quite possible  that other members of the family travelled with him.
You've just said 'Pennsylvania' so hard to look up much but did he marry there?
Who was the informant on his death certificate? it's possible the person made a mistake giving father's name as James
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: MattH on Tuesday 25 October 16 19:45 BST (UK)
I have a lead for a possible immigration record into the US, but I currently do not know if it connects with the family I'm researching. It does have a Patrick (Patk) Lambert traveling with a James (Jas) Lambert and what would be several siblings coming from Ireland in 1884 on the ship Spain. However, subsequent research as to whether this is the correct family remains to be seen. I've been trying to go through each child on that passenger list to see if I can make any connection, and it hasn't produced anything definitive. What's worse is that there's no 1890 census in the US, so a sixteen-year gap is a long time for life to happen.
The informant on the death certificate was John Lambert, Patrick's son.
Patrick did marry in Pennsylvania. The marriage record I see has a birth date, birth place, and residence at the time of marriage.
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 25 October 16 20:39 BST (UK)
Nope. I just clicked on the link and it had the seven results from your search. All of them had pictures available, and none of them had James as the father. It's my understanding that this database is still incomplete, so it's possible that another record exists outside of this database that would match what I'm looking for.

.....or the years could be out?? Try other years??
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 25 October 16 21:05 BST (UK)
Did your Patrick marry twice:
1) Lena A
2) Julia

If so, I just wonder if there could be more information from one or other record.

Heywood
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: MattH on Wednesday 26 October 16 03:37 BST (UK)
He was married to both. I've seen both marriage records, and they don't provide me with much more than a birthday, residence at the time of the marriage, and place of birth. The place of birth is empty on the first marriage record, and completely non existent on the second.
The only thing that I could see worth doing is contacting the churches where they were married and see if the parish records reveal much of anything. Unless you have another suggestion?
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 26 October 16 08:45 BST (UK)
I notice that there is a William Lambert of a similar age and immigration date in the censuses.
Do you have the potential sibling names from your ship record?
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 26 October 16 10:12 BST (UK)
The handiest thing to do is look at Lambert births on irishgenealogy, using a wider year range and see which ones had a father of same name. Just use the Surname! They may not be completely done with Images, but they are completely done by Name!

He was born in 1870 or 1871 or 1866 etc.....

Look at Lamberts from 1860 to 1875,

or from 1865 on if they were RC!
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 26 October 16 10:17 BST (UK)
Was James in Ireland for Census?

1901 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iqp/
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 26 October 16 10:19 BST (UK)
What Religion were they??
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 26 October 16 10:44 BST (UK)
29th May 1877 James Lambert and Mary Ronayne had a daughter in Dublin's Rotunda Hosp
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03012/2103661.pdf
she was baptised two weeks later in St Mary's Pro Catherdral as Mary Frances Lambert
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/02754d0117478

her fathers address was given as 100 St Anne's St, Chester a Traveller by occupation
Title: Re: Lambert lookup request
Post by: MattH on Friday 28 October 16 18:32 BST (UK)
Just a quick update from me: I contacted the church where Patrick was married twice in Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, their records were lost in a flood in the 1970s. So, I'm almost back at square one.
Would anyone be kind enough to look this up on the RootsIreland website, please?
Again, I'm looking for a Patrick Lambert, who was the son of James Lambert, born between 1866 and 1871. One marriage record has him born on 16 February 1870, but that may be inaccurate. Only one record has him born in 1866, the others are either 1870 and 1871. I don't know the mother's name.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks!