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Title: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: hmclem on Monday 24 October 16 21:30 BST (UK)
Hi
I am struggling to find out any further information regarding my great grandparents. I know that John Davis was born about 1891 and Johanna Blanche about 1887 as I have visited their grave. That is how I know Johannas maiden name as they are buried with her unmarried sister Mary. My nan, their daughter, always said that they were from Waterford but apart from that I don't really have any more information. My nans brother, William Nicholas Davis,  was born in Waterford in 1913 I believe.  My nan, Mary Margaret Davis, was born in Bristol in 1919. Her sister, Johanna Davis was born about 1915 but I do not know where. So I am unsure as to exactly when the family moved form Ireland to Bristol, England or why.
Any help would be appreciated regarding the best place to look for information regarding my great grandparents.
Thanks
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 24 October 16 21:37 BST (UK)
Try using www.irishgenealogy.ie, Civil Records ;D

Marriage, 3rd September 1912, Waterford district
John Davis to Johanna Blanche

Birth for Johanna in 1887 is there, too.
28th January 1887, daughter of John Blanche and Johanna Blanche, formerly Quinn
Born at the Union Hospital


Images of the registers are available to download.


You should be able to find them on the 1911 Ireland census.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 24 October 16 21:53 BST (UK)
There is also this birth:

7th February 1915, Johanna daughter of John Davis and Johanna, formerly Blanche.
Father a soldier "serving in France"


and

12th July 1913, William, son of John Davis and Johanna, formerly Blanch
Father a Railway Porter

Both in Barrack Street, Waterford
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 25 October 16 07:44 BST (UK)
possibly Johanna 13 with widowed mother 50
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_No__1_Urban/Little_Patrick_St_/1761024/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Waterford_No__5_Urban/O_Connell_Street__part_of_/671715/

possible death of John Blanche 1891 killed at Waterford station by being run over by a wagon
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06053/4725179.pdf
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 25 October 16 08:00 BST (UK)
Mary Blanche born 1884 Little Patrick Street
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02688/1990267.pdf
1901 age 16
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_Rural/Gracedieu_West/1763655/
1911 age 23
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Waterford_No__5_Urban/Gracedieu_Road/671603/

brother Patrick born 1879 no 54 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02916/2068441.pdf
1901 near the railway works at Inchicore where he probably worked
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/New_Kilmainham/Inchicore_Square/1289920/

cant find him 1911
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 25 October 16 08:22 BST (UK)
Parents marriage 1878
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/a2b66b13702832

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/dd73a413719795
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 25 October 16 08:28 BST (UK)
Sadly it looks like poor Patrick suffered the same fate as his father in 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05696/4605833.pdf

you should pick up something in the papers

he appears to be buried in Glasnevin age 22 as Patrick Blanch
http://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 25 October 16 10:11 BST (UK)
Your Davis side seems bit difficult to sort as i cant find anything positive for 1911 but there is an 11 yr old John in Artane Industrial School in 1901 born Waterford
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01g7m/

edited to add the above John is probably not him as he seems to have a brother Edward born 1893 also in Artane their parents appear to be Edward Davis pig buyer and Ellen Buter.
While John says on his marriage cert his father is William Davis bootmaker
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09932/5611323.pdf
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 25 October 16 13:00 BST (UK)
most likely death for Johanna Blanche widow aged 69 in 1918 informant Mary Blanche,Barrack St
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05193/4434465.pdf
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 25 October 16 13:23 BST (UK)
As John Davis was serving in France in 1915 you might get more info if you can find his service record
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01385/1569738.pdf
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: hmclem on Tuesday 25 October 16 16:27 BST (UK)
Wow - Thank you all. This has given me a lot of things to look at. :) Really really appreciated.
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: jim burke on Tuesday 25 October 16 22:26 BST (UK)
Hi Just to say there was a Catherine Blanch born 24th Dec 1910 Union Hospital to Joanna Blanch of George's St Waterford Debur
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 26 October 16 09:46 BST (UK)
There was also a John Blanche born Francis Street 24th Feb 1889 to John Blanche and Johanna Quinn
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02482/1921400.pdf

i can find no records for him other than his birth.

Re John Davis there are a few by that name on the 1911 English census born Ireland in their 20s lncluding one from Waterford City
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01iqo/

it is also strange that he calls himself an Engineer on his marriage cert while on William's birth he is a Railway Porter.



Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: jim burke on Wednesday 26 October 16 12:36 BST (UK)
That's right John Blanche & Joanna Quinn was the parents of Joanna Blanche who married John Davis 1912, this Joanna had a child called Catherine, born 24th Dec 1910, debur
Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: nowel on Thursday 27 October 16 17:49 BST (UK)
Royal Artillery Attestation - John Davis age 18, enlisted 5 Oct 1909. Regt. No - 59382. (previously in 3rd Batt. (militia) Gloucester Regt.). Born Bristol. Wife -Johanna Blanch. Children - William, b. Waterford. Joanna, b. Waterford. Mary Margaret, b. Bristol. Address on discharge 4 Oct 1921 - 31 Beaconsfield St., Barton Hill, Bristol. Available on FindMyPast or Lives of the First World War.

1901 England census Bristol - William Davis, boot operator. Wife, Margaret. John age 9 and 5 other siblings.

Title: Re: My great grandparents - Johanna Blanche and John Davis
Post by: hmclem on Thursday 27 October 16 20:55 BST (UK)
That's interesting nowel.

I had always assumed that John Davis was born in Ireland (prob Waterford) as that was where he married Johanna and the first two of his children were born.