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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: S.boggs on Monday 24 October 16 17:42 BST (UK)
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New to both searching family history and this web site.
I can go back to my great grand father captain Robert Boggs who died with all crew member on the steel barge "Oesso" of Holyhead late 1800s.
Does any one have any information on Boggs family from Harvey Street.
Kind regards Samuel Boggs
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Boggs Jeannie of 6 Harvey Street Londonderry married woman died 20 March 1949 at the Waterside General Hospital Londonderry Administration Londonderry 25 May to Samuel Thomas Boggs plumber the husband. Effects £433 5s. 2d.
Boggs Samuel of 6 Harvey Street Londonderry retired plumber died 19 September 1958 at the City and County Hospital Londonderry Administration Londonderry 17 November to William Boggs accountant's clerk. Effects £1502 19s. 2d.
http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
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1901 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/No__4_Urban__West_Ward/Harvey_Street/1537097
1911 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__4_/Harvey_Street/603357
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Hi,
Welcome from me also :)
Robert Boggs (ship master) married Sarah Campbell 14 July 1890, Carlisle Road Church,Parish of Templemore
Father's name - Thomas Boggs (farmer)
Spouse's father's name - Samuel Campbell (farmer)
Wits - Robert L Campbell and Elizabeth Brady
How sad that Robert died only four years after his marriage to Sarah.
JJ
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Robert Boggs (ship master) married Sarah Campbell 14 July 1890, Carlisle Road Church,Parish of Templemore
Father's name - Thomas Boggs (farmer)
Spouse's father's name - Samuel Campbell (farmer)
Wits - Robert L Campbell and Elizabeth Brady
Actual marriage online (free) here along with other civil records- marriage took place in Carlisle Road Presbyterian Church:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/3bf4437627807
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Birth of Mary R -
Name Boggs
Gender Female
Birth Date 10 Apr 1891
Birth Place Devonia, Merchant Marine, At Sea, Great Britain
Father Robert Boggs
Mother Sarah Campbell Boggs
JJ
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Son Samuel born 28 Mar.1893.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4235225181274
Married 1919 Jeannie McClements- his address given as Belfast-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/2ee17c6893266
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Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Robert Boggs late of Harvey-street Londonderry Sea Captain who died 30 December 1894 at Sea were granted at Londonderry to Sarah Boggs of Harvey-street the Widow.
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I noticed on the 1911 cencus the daughter Mary's second name was roulston,so this could be Sarah's birth.
Name:
Sarah Campbell
Date of Birth:
01-Feb-1860
Date of Baptism:
01-Apr-1860
Address:
Creevagh
Parish/District:
SECOND DERRY (STRAND)
Gender:
Female
County
Co. Derry
Denomination:
Presbyterian
Father:
Samuel Campbell
Mother:
Roulston
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
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Hi
Somehow - Robert Boggs is part of my family tree (father-in-law of fourth cousin)! He was born 1843 Kilnappy County Londonderry. Married Sarah Campbell. Mary was born on board the Devonia 10.4.1891. He was the Ships Master. Samuel Thomas was born 28 Mar 1893 at Harvey Street. He married an Eliza Jane McClements from Gortnaskey (where my grandfathers' family are from).....I have a bit more if you're interested....
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Thank you for your interest ning26. I am building information to commence a family tree for my young son. I would be interested on any information on the Boggs family.
Thanks in advance & kind regards,
Samuel Boggs
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New to both searching family history and this web site.
I can go back to my great grand father captain Robert Boggs who died with all crew member on the steel barque "Oesso" of Holyhead late 1800s.
Does any one have any information on Boggs family from Harvey Street.
Kind regards Samuel Boggs
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Boggs from Londonderry. My ancestor John Boggs was the son of Robert Boggs of Fermanagh Ireland. Robert married Nancy McGill. Their son John and his wife Mary Ann Cunningham sailed for Sydney Australia in 1837 on the Adam Lodge. Does this ring a bell with your family research
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Robert Boggs's daughter Mary who was born at sea was baptised at Carlisle Road Presbyterian Church on 5th May 1891.
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Hi,
Just read your post. I know it's been a long time since you posted but Robert Boggs is also my husbands g grandfather.
I have been researching the Boggs family since about 2003. I went to Ireland and met some of the family around 2005.
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Hello magster51, It is a dream of mine to find Boggs family in Ireland. I descend from John Boggs and Mary Anne Cunningham who sailed on the ship :Adam Lodge" and arrived in Sydney 1837. Does this ring a bell ? I would love to hear more from you. I am from Sydney Australia (*)
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Sorry Shylieb I don't think this is one of my research families. My Boggs family is Robert Boggs wbo married Sarah Campbell.
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Thank you for your message. Do you know of any other Boggs link I could follow. I should imagine that you have had to wade through many false leads. Regards Shylie
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Hi I know how difficult it is to research Irish records, as there are not that many surviving today. When I started doing the family history I had to employ a researcher at first, as there were so few records available online (there are many more available now thankfully) I found Ancestry pretty good don't know if your on that site.
I think it's just a case of trawling through as many genealogy sites a possible and using forums such as this sometimes you get lucky.
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Thank you for that advice. I have been trawling through but have got nowhere, What I was hoping for was maybe to find a brother or sister of John Boggs who did not emigrate . Thanks again Shylie
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Two deaths for Boggs of Harvey street.
Thomas Boggs
parents
Robert & Jane Boggs
birth place
Enagh
addresss
11 Harvey Street
84 years
death
3 Mar 1881
Mary Boggs
parents
Robert & Eliza Roulston
birth place
Greencastle
address
6 Harvey Street
70 years
death
06 Feb 1889
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Adding to above post (those details perhaps from Derry City Cemetery online database?)-
Samuel Boggs born 1893- 6 Harvey St.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02304/1863973.pdf
Thomas Boggs died 1881
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1881/06450/4853808.pdf
Mary Boggs (spouse of Thomas), died 1889
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06152/4757512.pdf
Other entries in Irish Genealogy database-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
See Derry City Cemetery database-
http://www.derrystrabane.com/Subsites/Museums-and-Heritage/City-Cemetery-Records-Project
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Thank you for that advice. I have been trawling through but have got nowhere, What I was hoping for was maybe to find a brother or sister of John Boggs who did not emigrate . Thanks again Shylie
My 3x great grandmother was Isabella Boggs, born c. 1795 and married to George McKnight in Co. Fermanagh. I have DNA matches with descendants of your John Boggs.
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I have a passing interest in the Boggs family from Londonderry from my Quaker research. I think it's called 'urban myth' but the story goes like this. A family of Livingstone's from Scotland settled on some land just Southeast of Derry City in the 1700s. There was some sort of persecution relating to their Scottish homelands and they changed their names to 'Boggs' How true this is, I don't know-but DNA carriers of the name could test it.
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Have just discovered this site after googling my dad's name Thomas Samuel boggs was hoping for more info on family members I do know he's the last of his siblings to pass he went on 30th of Jan 2021
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A website 'Bogstown.com' might help some viewers. There's a list of associated families which I found useful. The Livingstone's took the name Boggs, but it was an insiders joke because the land of Swantallow that became 'Elagh' was high ground, very fertile, highly desirable for commanding views of the countryside. Fascinating stuff with the Battle of Elagh featuring. Others may wish to comment on its veracity
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My 2nd great Grandmother Nympha Boag related a story to my grandfather's cousin of a Sea Captain who went down with his ship. Unfortunately by the time he related this story to his son details were lost and we have no idea where or at what generation only that it was in the Boag/Boggs side which is important as Nympha 's maternal grandfather was a Master Mariner as well.
Anyways we've eliminated two of the four lost at Sea Captains so far. William Boggs who was working out of Manchester as we can find No connection to my group or a family that is genetically closely related to mine, Thomas Boggs who was either murdered or drowned in South America while looking for Pirate treasure ( YDna results eliminated him though we both share a history of a relation in some way to another Boag family in Australia and a connection to Greenock. The remaining two are your Robert Boggs and a John Boggs who died in 1809. The only thing about John I can find is he was given a gift of pistols for transporting troops on a private vessel.
Nympha is descended from William Boggs and Isabella Nixon and all we really have on them is from oral history. They married and baptised their children in Derry and that Isabella was descended from the Nixon's at Nixon Hall in Enniskillen.
All of their known children went to Ayrshire mostly to Maybole but within their records there there is at least one unknown son whose widow was Elizabeth Smith and BMD of their children suggest they were born earlier that the 1772 and 1776 in oral history. At least one of their children was born in 1785.
Anyways my Aunt had a DNaA match that clusters with my family and is close enough to be a descendant William and Isabella. My shared matches with them returned a descendants of Sally Boggs Bayliff married to James Dougherty who is connected to Tullydush in Fahan lower and most of her Nixon matches are connected to Castlewarren Tyrone whose ancestors may be the Andrew Nixon who married a Caldwell in Faughanvale. I strongly suspect William was connected to families in around Faughanvale or in Tirkeereen at the moment. Another shared match was to a Fulton Boggs family that researches connect to the family of John Fulton and Ann Boggs who went to Malin eventually. My match was to a Robert Fulton and Ann Boggs and there is so far nothing that confirms Ann is related to the previous one. Robert Fulton's mother was a Bradlee.
Anyways I am actively investigating connections to the names Fulton, Ellis, Dougherty and Swan and Anderson to Boggs family lineages and wonder if you have come across any of these in your family history or research.
William and Isabella known children were:
William and Isabella s known children were:
Margaret Boag ( Boggs)
1785–1859. Married to Robert Williamson
James Boag m. To Hannah Patterson
1789–1871
Andrew Boag m to Elizabeth Hendrie
1791–1868
William Boggs Boag Boags m. To Margaret Holigan
–1881
Aaron Boag ( my ancestor) He had two wives Kathryn Lang and Margaret Drysdale but my ancestor Thomas Boag was born out of wedlock to Martha McGowan between his marriages
There was at least one unknown son in the Scottish records his wife was Elizabeth Smith and by her age he would likely have been born in the 1780's.
There is also a Marriage record of a Liley Boggs and William Houston in 1820 in Maybole who may be another daughter.
There may be other children.
Would love to know if anyone here connected to Robert knows of any known connections.
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As I have previously posted my interest is in Quaker Blackburns but yesterday I did find some Nixons and the area is the same. Sarah Blackburn 1799 of Newbuildings married William Nixon 1789 of Castlewarren (Bondsglen) and they did have a daughter named Isabella. Sarah's Father was Robert and her Grandfather was John 1749 registered with the Protestant Landholders 1740 as Tirkeeran. William/Robert Nixon was the son of James Nixon 1760s and Christina Dunlop. There are property maps and good source material. Ancestry member 1_barryjo24 was the source of this info.
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...but it was an insiders joke because the land of Swantallow that became 'Elagh' was high ground, very fertile, highly desirable for commanding views of the countryside. Fascinating stuff with the Battle of Elagh featuring. Others may wish to comment on its veracity
Are we talking about these two townlands in Templemore civil parish?
Shantallow townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/north-west-liberties-of-londonderry/templemore/liberties-lower/shantallow/
Elagh (More) townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/north-west-liberties-of-londonderry/templemore/liberties-lower/elagh-more/
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https://www.bogstown.com
My family is McCurry Blackburns of Myroe. Focus currently on Arthur Blackburn, Protestant Landholders 1740 residing in Stroove, Moville. A couple of DNA matches to the Ancestry member mentioned earlier today led me to the Nixons and Blackburns of Newbuildings. I found two or three generations of Curry, thought to pass on whatever I found for the most recent poster.
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Jo McKee. They are among my matches and are returned as matches between my Aunt and her Boggs cousins.
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That is good to know, all singing from the same song sheet
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Jo McKee. The Quaker connection is actually really interesting me as my aunt's matches to a family that made me start focussing again on Robert Boggs did generate some matches to a name or variations that is also on my aunt's other side of the family which was Whalley. My Whalley's were Quakers from Yeadon in Yorkshire so far.
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The history of the Irish quakers is very interesting but most travelled to the New World to Pennsylvania where William Penn created a safe haven for their religious observance. The McCools, Blackburns, Holmes, Millars and Lightfoots went to Menallen, Chester. I would be happy just to find the parentage of Arthur Blackburn who was living in Stroove, Moville 1740, it must be connected to the Blackburns, possibly Archibald Blackburn who married Rosanna Steele of Raphoe (daughter of Nathaniel) or Archibald Blackburn who married Margaret Wilson. Hugh Blackburn was either his Brother or cousin and married either Susan Crawford or Margaret's sister, Susan Wilson. There was a business out of Glasgow 'Hugh Blackburn & Co' exporters to the British Colony of Virginia who may have had business interests in Moville.