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Title: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: Stonegeko on Saturday 22 October 16 01:40 BST (UK)
I am trying to find more information on the life of my 2nd great grandfather Frederick Blagg Hampton.
In particular his military service and the meaning of KIC associated with his name.
The following is documented information
1815 – Christened in Westminster, London, England
1841 – Married Matilda Stratfold, Woburn, Bedfordshire, England
1851 – Chief constable, Isle of Islay, Cambridgeshire, England
1855 – Immigrated to Sydney Australia
1856 - Inspector of Sydney Police
1857 – Appointed to Native Police, Northern District (Assumed Brisbane)
1859 – Death in Brisbane Australia.

The following is conjecture
“He served with the British Auxiliary Legion 1835-1837 as a Captain of artillery.”
This is based on
•   The death notices for 2 of his daughters had him noted as “Capt Frederick B Hampton K.I.C.-B.A.L.”
•   The occupation of “Captain of Artillery” was noted on the marriage certificate of his son Robert Collet Edwin Hampton.
•   A sliver snuff box presented to him on leaving Sydney inscribed:     
                       Capt Frederick Blagg Hampton K.I.C.
                       late of the British Auxiliary Legion
                       and now Inspector in Charge of Division "D" of
                       the Metropolitan Police Force of New South Wales.
                       As a mark of esteem from a few of his friends in his district
                       Sydney 1st May 1857.
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 22 October 16 04:21 BST (UK)
Also in death notices for his wife and son:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article19826782

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article148145254

Probate notice for Frederick: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article228716593

Have you seen the very detailed information on this man and family on the NET? It has identical information to that which you have posted above.

It states that Northern Districts is in NSW, which I would assume to be correct.

Jamjar
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: chempat on Saturday 22 October 16 08:53 BST (UK)
Have you looked to see where the British Auxiliary Legion was serving from 1835 to 1837?

Spain?
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 22 October 16 09:24 BST (UK)
A mention of his arrival in Aus in "Reminiscences of a Colonial Judge" (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rm6Z9R20VYsC&pg=PA89&dq=%22F+B+Hampton%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjR45mr_e3PAhUGVhoKHUWmBIEQ6AEINTAD#v=onepage&q=%22F%20B%20Hampton%22&f=false)



Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 22 October 16 09:31 BST (UK)
Quote
1851 – Chief constable, Isle of Islay, Cambridgeshire, England

It's Ely not Islay !

He was appointed Chief Constable on 14 July 1841, at a meeting of the Isle of Ely magistrates at Wisbech.

(Cambridge Chronicle and Journal, 24 July 1841)
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 22 October 16 09:45 BST (UK)
As an officer in the British Auxiliary Legion he would only have served in Spain (in the Carlist wars) but it seems likely that he was in the British (or possibly HEIC) Army before that.

Here he is with other officers in San Sebastian in September 1837,  petitioning the British Government for financial support https://goo.gl/6dhW4a
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 22 October 16 10:21 BST (UK)
KIC would be "Knight of the royal order of Isabel the Catholic"
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 22 October 16 11:46 BST (UK)
You may have this already - the Adelaide Times 13 July 1855 (http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/207071506?searchTerm=captain%20hampton%20police%20artillery&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||dateTo=1860-12-31|||notWords|||anyWords|||dateFrom=1851-01-01|||requestHandler|||sortby=dateAsc):

"One sergeant and twenty men of the Manchester police force have been selected by the Government to proceed to Sydney. Captain Hampton, who is acting on behalf of the Government in organising the Australian drafts, has selected a number of men from the Liverpool police force. The men are to be paid 5s. per day; sergeants to receive 6s. 3d. and superintendents 8s. 6d. By agreement they are to remain in the police force at Sydney for three years."
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 22 October 16 12:10 BST (UK)
You may have this already - the Adelaide Times 13 July 1855 (http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/207071506?searchTerm=captain%20hampton%20police%20artillery&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||dateTo=1860-12-31|||notWords|||anyWords|||dateFrom=1851-01-01|||requestHandler|||sortby=dateAsc):

"One sergeant and twenty men of the Manchester police force have been selected by the Government to proceed to Sydney. Captain Hampton, who is acting on behalf of the Government in organising the Australian drafts, has selected a number of men from the Liverpool police force. The men are to be paid 5s. per day; sergeants to receive 6s. 3d. and superintendents 8s. 6d. By agreement they are to remain in the police force at Sydney for three years."

A related court case: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12979210

Jamjar
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 22 October 16 12:38 BST (UK)
He was a constable in Bedfordshire in 1840
http://bedsarchivescat.bedford.gov.uk/Details/archive/110338402

Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 22 October 16 12:44 BST (UK)
When that 1840 case came to court at the October quarter sessions, the newspaper reports record that he was a superintendent  of police. (Northampton Mercury, and Cambridge Independent Press, 24 October 1840).
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 22 October 16 14:02 BST (UK)
You may alread have this Stonegeko?

Marriage;
10 Sept 1812, St George Hanover Square, Middlesex
Robert HAMPTON, Bachelor
Eliza BLAGG, Spinster. Parish of St George
By Licence
(Source FreeREG)

2 Other Marriages same Church, Brother and possible Siblings of Eliza?
WILLIAM Blagg to Elizabeth SCOPES, 5 Aug 1816
WILLIAM Blagg to Elizabeth REAH, 4 July 1784

Also a JANE Blag, Spinster, Minor, Father William Blagg, to Henry, OSBORNE, 10 Oct 1816, same Church.

Looks to me that this is Eliza in 1861;
Lodging in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire;
ELIZA Hampton, 72 (1789), Widow, House Proprietor, born Marylebone, London.

1851 in Chelsea, Middlesex, ELIZA Hampton born c 1788 Marylebone, Middlesex.

1841 she may be with the Shaker Family (1851 they are Straker)
Elizabeth Hampton, 55, Independant

Possible Burial for ROBERT Hampton;
Age:   52, Estimated birth year: abt 1776
Burial Date: 23 Sep 1828
Burial Place: St Luke, Chelsea, England

Trish :)
Title: Re: HAMPTON Frederick Blagg 1814-1859
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 22 October 16 16:52 BST (UK)
There's at least one mention of him in "The British Auxiliary Legion in the First Carlist War in Spain, 1835-1838: A Forgotten Army" by Edward M Brett (2005)

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=GmRpAAAAMAAJ&dq=%22british+auxiliary+legion%22&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=hampton