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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Galway => Topic started by: Deesider on Wednesday 19 October 16 18:03 BST (UK)
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From a birth Registration in 1877 I have come across the place Fair Hill. Please see attached image.
The birth was registered in the Superintendant Registrar's District of Galway ; Registrar's District Galway No2.
Is this Fair Hill a Townland or a Street Name in Galway Town?
Thanks for your help
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This time with image
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Google 'townlands galway' and you get lists, which include Fairhill [all one word] but does not appear to be in Galway town.
Fairhill, Killoscobe Civil Parish, Barony of Tiaouin, Co. Galway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_townlands_of_County_Galway
https://www.townlands.ie/galway/
Josey
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http://www.logainm.ie/en/1385074
http://www.logainm.ie/en/20567
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The existing Registrars' Districts of Galway No. 1, Galway No. 2, Moycullen and Oranmore shall be amalgamated and shall together form one Registrar's District to be known as the Registrar's District of Galway. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1993/si/360/made/en/print
So it looks as if http://www.logainm.ie/en/1385074 is the one!
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Hi Josey and Hallmark,
Thanks to both for your replies
Josey,
I looked at both those websites and in particular https://www.townlands.ie/galway/, as this website shows maps of the location of the Townland. My concern is that Fairhill, Killoscobe Civil Parish, Barony of Tiaouin, Co. Galway seems (to me) to be too far away from Galway Town to be Galway No 2 Registration District. Can you advise whether this townland is in fact in Galway No 2 Regisreation District?
Hallmark,
I believe http://www.logainm.ie/en/20567 is the townland referred to by Josie above
What is http://www.logainm.ie/en/1385074 ? It appears to be in the middle of Galway Town is ir a region of the town or what? Can you confirm that this part of Galway Town was registration district Galway No 2?
Thanks for your help
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As it says.... it's a Street in Galway town.
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If you gave name and details you have it would be much easier than guessing which one it is!!
or look for it on irishgenealogy, civil reg!!
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Hi Hallmark,
The full details are:
13th August 1877
Michael Adley of Fair Hill
Father Thomas Adley a Labourer of Fair Hill
Mother Kate Adley formerly Leonard
Informant Julia (x) Noone, present at Birth, Fair Hill
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Reckon Galway City....
Informant Julia (x) Noone, present at Birth, Fair Hill on record above too!!
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02994/2097316.pdf
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Hi Hallmark,
Thanks for your last message.
I can confirm that the link you have specified, is to the website from which I obtained the original information.
Galway Town is where I expected the birth to have taken place.
My concern is of the 10 birth on the page 5 appear to be at Fair Hill.
So If Fair Hill is a Street in Galway Town there were a lot of births in that Street
As for the Townland of Fairhill, it appears to be 26 miles from Galway Town and 17 miles from Tuam and therefore I would have thought that the Townland of Fairhill is more likely to be in the Tuam Registration District rather than Galway Registretion District.
I will go with your statement that FairHill is a Street in Galway Town.
Thanks for your help
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Posting links always helps, as in additional information in this case....
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Districts of Galway No. 1, Galway No. 2, Moycullen and Oranmore shall be amalgamated
Moycullen.. http://www.logainm.ie/en/1413947?s=Moycullen
http://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=Oranmore&str=on Oranmore
So, Galway City !
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There's Fair Hill Rd in the Cladagh, which is south west part of Galway city!
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Hi Bairbre,
Many thanks to your reply to my original message
I am lookimg at a page of 10 birth registrations; six of them refer to the place of Fair Hill, and 2 of them refer to the place of Claddagh spelt with a 'dd'.
In your reply you say that Fair Hill Road is 'in the Cladagh'. Is Cladagh a district of modern day Galway City and in the past (say 1877) would Cladagh have been a separate place?
I see you are a new member to Rootschat so welcome to the message board
Regards
The Wirral Way
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Sorry, it is "Claddagh". While it was referred to as the Claddagh Village in the past I know it was part of Galway city in 1840. This link has a picture of Fairhill Rd and a list of residents from about 1895. http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/54646/lower-fairhill-road-c1895
Bairbre
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If you google "claddagh village galway city" lots of bits about Claddagh come up, Here are just a few-
http://www.claddaghtale.com/claddagh.html
http://irishpost.co.uk/the-fascinating-story-of-galways-lost-community-of-claddagh/
https://www.claddaghdesign.com/ireland/claddagh-town-behind-ring/
Although lots of the sites are about the famous Claddagh Ring some of them have lovely old photos of the area-
http://lawrencecollection.com/photo/claddagh-village/
http://www.rareirishstuff.com/galway-/the-claddagh-claddagh-village-galway-ireland-1915.1650.html
http://nuigarchives.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/photographs-of-claddagh-village-1939.html
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Hi Bairbre & aghadowey,
Many thanks for the information about about Claddagh, it is very helpful to get an understanding of the geography of the place one is undertaking family history research.
Thanks for your help
The Wirral Way
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Here's a link that might be helpful to Audley/Adley reseachers http://www.audleyfamilyhistory.com/audley-family-trees/audley-families-m-to-o
Michael Adley and parents Thomas and Kate are mentioned in "Family MD1"
Bairbre
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Hi Barbre,
Many thanks for your reply. Unfortunately the link to www.audleyfamilyhistory.com does not help me as I am the owner of the website.
I am currently trying to review and update 'Audley Family M' of Galway, Ireland. I managed identify a birth registration that I was previously unaware of and that mentioned 'Fair Hill' as the place where the individual was born..
In looking on the internet I had found Fairhill Road in the City of Galway but there is also a townland called Fairhill in County Galway well away from Galway City see https://www.townlands.ie/galway/tiaquin/killoscobe/mounthazel/fairhill/#area
My problem was in which Fairhill did the birth take place. With the link to Claddagh this indicates that the birth took place in Fairhill Road, Galway City.
Regards
The Wirral Way
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Fairhill, Mounthazel, is in the registrar district of Mountbellew, in the union of Mountbellew, in the county of Galway.
Fairhill in the Claddagh is in the registrar district of Galway no.2, in the union of Galway, in the county Galway. ;D
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Fairhill, Mounthazel, is in the registrar district of Mountbellew, in the union of Mountbellew, in the county of Galway.
Fairhill in the Claddagh is in the registrar district of Galway no.2, in the union of Galway, in the county Galway. ;D
The following link shows an OSI map that predates 1877 by several decades, but you can see a reference to the Claddagh (pan NW to see the rest of Galway) and you can see the references to Fair Hill to the south (select 'STREET MAP' or slide the 'Overlay' bar over to the right hand side of the screen to see the area on a modern street map):
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,529343,724364,10,7
Hence, presumably, the references to 'Here's a toast to you Claddagh at the foot of Fairhill'. Above the 6th postcard (of the Claddagh) in the following link is a reference 'This looks to be near the top of Fairhill as you can see the bay in the distance':
https://oldgalwaypics.sharepoint.com/Pages/Claddagh.aspx
There are other internet references implying that Fairhill was / is more than a street, rather that it was / is an area in the Claddagh, is that correct?
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There are other internet references implying that Fairhill was / is more than a street, rather that it was / is an area in the Claddagh, is that correct?
That is correct! The Claddagh village existed long before the Anglo-Norman town of Galway. The Claddagh was at the foot of Fairhill and on the west bank of the river Corrib with the town on the east bank.
The Claddagh village was demolished in the 1930s, and a new housing estate was built for the residents, in the Claddagh and Fairhill area, hence Fairhill becoming a road in the Claddagh of today. But I still hear people referr to Fairhill today as if it's still separate from the Claddagh. It's a local thing :)
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That's cleared that up nicely and very useful for folk coming upon this topic in the future. Thankyou. :)
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Hi Bairbre and Gaffy,
Many thanks for your further comments.
To me the key piece of information is Bairbre's comment that Fair Hill in Claddagh is in Galway Registration District No 2. As Galway Registration District No2 is stated on the birth registration document I have a copy of. This confirms that I am looking at Fairhill, Calddagh for the birth registration, rather than the townland of Fairhill near Mountbellew
Thanks for your help
Regards
The Wirral Way
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It is, but what I was trying to get at was clarification to address the point you raised at reply #10, namely:
'So If Fair Hill is a Street in Galway Town there were a lot of births in that Street'
We now know that it was more than that, thanks to Bairbre.
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Gaffy,
I totally agree with what you say
The Wirral Way