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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Clare => Topic started by: jbm on Wednesday 19 October 16 14:53 BST (UK)
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Help needed as I'm trying to find the names of the fathers of Patrick McMahon and Julia Gleeson who I believe were married about 1882 in Scarriff Clare. On the 1901 census they are living in William Street Nenagh Tipp but place of birth for Patrick and Julia is given as Clare. They had 10 children and the births of the first 4 were registered in Scarriff - Catherine 1883, William 1885, Mary 1887 and Margaret 1889. The family were living in Killaloe Clare then moved to Ballina Tipp about 1890. Also on the 1901 census they say that the children were all born in Tipperary which is true for the last 6 children as 2 were born in Ballina and 4 in Nenagh There is no record of the marriage on the Civil Registration list or on IrishGenealogy.ie Many thanks
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Have you tried to match a McMahon marriage to this entry from Family Search?
Name: Julia Gleason
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: Apr - Jun 1878
Event Place: Tuam, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1878
Registration District: Tuam
Volume Number: 4
Page Number: 217
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This Julia didn't marry a McMahon. Thanks for looking :)
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Hi, County Clare records are not complete in many sites.
No marriages in rootsireland
County Clare Baptism records had 1 Patrick McMahon born in Scariff.
please see below
if your Patrick had 3 sisters, Nora, Margaret and Bridget then this is the correct Patrick.
The Clare Baptism records for Patrick and Julia are not listed but all the ones in Tipperary are.
Maggsie
Name: Patrick McMahon Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 06-Feb-1862
Address: Gortaderra Parish/District: SCARIFF
Gender: Male County Co. Clare
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Michael McMahon Mother: Ellen Mansell
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Anthony Sheedy Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Ellen McMahon
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Thank you for your help Sadly I know little about my gt grandparents. When my dad was baptised in 1920 in Nenagh one of his sponsors was a Joseph McMahon but my dad didn't know what relation he was (if any) The only other relative I know about is a first cousin of my gt grandfather Patrick McMahon called Mary Delaney who died in 1909 in Nenagh. Mary was born in 1864 in Killaloe and her parents were Biddy McMahon and Michael Blackall. Biddy and Michael were married in 1856 in Newport Tipp. Biddy would be my gt grandfather's aunt as she was his father's sister. There seems to be a connection to Killaloe and also to Ballina Tipp as Patrick, Julia and their children are buried in 'The Family Plot' in Templehallow Ballina. Someone on a facebook site told me that their McMahon family had come from Corrofin Clare, had moved to Killaloe in the 1860s and then to The Grange Ballina. She thought that one brother had moved to Nenagh but had never been able to find out who as on the 1901 census there are several McMahon families in Nenagh
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Hi,
With the names you have mentioned..
Mary Delany who died in 1909.....she was married to Daniel, is this correct?
If yes, she was Mary Blackhall and her father was William.
The Joseph McMahon, in 1911 census his Father is Jeremiah and Mother is Mary Ellen.
I checked for his birth, the Mother's maiden name was Moroney.
This Mary Moroney was born in Grange Nenagh, this is on the main road going up hill towards Nenagh from Ballina (you mentioned Grange in your post)
All these families lived in William Street.
If you would like all the records please let me know.
Maggsie
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Hi yes Mary husband was Daniel. Have you found a marriage record for them as I was told her father was Michael Blackall. Do you know what the graveyard is called in Killaloe as someone has told me that Templehallow is Killaloe and that Ballina is Templekelly. Do you have different info on William Street to what appears on the 1901/1911 census - if so then yes it is of interest. Many thanks for your help
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Map showing location of Templehollow most online sources as Templehollow, Ballina and from this map it shows Killaloe across the river from Ballina & graveyard)-
http://www.cwgc.org/find-a-cemetery/cemetery/2082256/BALLINA%20(TEMPLEHOLLOW)%20GRAVEYARD
On Google Streetview old graveyard is visable - see here (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.8019631,-8.4340319,3a,75y,347.53h,91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sikpYXMK1BuWF60-KDDBZsw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
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Hi, Yes, when searching, I dig!
Are you in Ireland or the UK?
I have the marriage of Daniel and Mary, the death for Mary.
I don't search for more info. until you reply, so next I will send a Private Message for your email address, if that's ok.
I was born in Nenagh so I know the area, even though I left when I was young.
Maggsie
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Hi jbm,
The marriage is on Irish genealogy which is freely available. https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
You will probably have to sign in from the link. Maggie, you perhaps have more from church records?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10572/5851726.pdf
Death of Mary is there too https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05443/4522862.pdf
Regards
Heywood
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Hi,
With the names you have mentioned..
Mary Delany who died in 1909.....she was married to Daniel, is this correct?
If yes, she was Mary Blackhall and her father was William.
The Joseph McMahon, in 1911 census his Father is Jeremiah and Mother is Mary Ellen.
I checked for his birth, the Mother's maiden name was Moroney.
This Mary Moroney was born in Grange Nenagh, this is on the main road going up hill towards Nenagh from Ballina (you mentioned Grange in your post)
All these families lived in William Street.
If you would like all the records please let me know.
Maggsie
Hi Maggsie,
Apologies for the gatecrash into this thread.
Mary Ellen Moroney is my Great Grandmother - married to Jeremiah McMahon. Their son, Denis, was my Grandfather and they all lived on William St at no: 31. My mother, was Mary Ellen McMahon and they lived at St Joseph's Park in Nenagh where my Uncle Gerry, died there in (I believe) 2008.
I do think these are two separate families that lived next door to one another with the same surname of McMahon on William Street.
Maggsie - if you could send over any information that would be great.
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Hi, Wow, wasn't expecting to see this post!!
Sommer43 I know your Mum and reckon that we all met together in Burnley a few years ago. Your Mum used to push my pram!!! Your mum is such a lovely character, how she remembers so many names and facts is amazing.. I hope she is well?
My mum and your mum were cousins.
We share Great Great Grandparents.. your Great grandma Mary Ellen (Maureen) Moroney is the sister of my Great Grandad Edward Moroney..
even more wow.. Maggsie is related to me too!!