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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: zander on Sunday 16 October 16 16:42 BST (UK)
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hi everyone,
i have just found a death notice for a john patrick kelly who died on 4th july 2005 in calgary,
can anyone help in getting anymore info on his details,
just i think it could be an uncle of mine who i have been searching for ,for ages,
says he had family in england and ireland but just not enough to confirm if its him or not,
any help would be fantastic
thanks zander
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Have you got date of birth ? When do you think your Uncle immigrated to Canada ? Was there family listed ?
Sandra
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Hi,
Is this the obituary you found zander? John born 1930, died July 4 2005.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/calgaryherald/obituary.aspx?n=john-kelly&pid=14459679&fhid=6133
RK
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hi sandra
thanks for the reply,i know that 2 uncles went to canada but unsure when,my mum just minds them alittle,
she was born in 1949 and they left when she was young,unsure dates,
when my grandad died they sent over a card and the address then was from jim (james) kelly and his brother john patrick kelly living in 1981 at 304,8830 85 street edmonton alberta canada,my mum never seen them again and as i say she isnt the greatest with dates,but going with some births of brothers and sisters they must have been born from 1927 to about 1937,
thanks zander
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hi RK
thats what i had seen,
i know they had a brother in england and the rest of the family are in ireland,
zander
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Hello zander I contacted the Edmonton Public Library Main Branch and had them do a lookup for James and John Patrick Kelly and they said there is no one by that name living at 304-8830 85th Street for the time period you indicated in your posting. They checked Henderson Directories and the White Pages 1978-1987.
More information from you would really help in finding them with Kelly being such a common name.
Dates and place of birth, when they came to Canada all most helpful.
Lilybell
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hi lilybell
many thanks for your work,
i got that address from a card they had sent home when there father had died,
they where both born in dunloy ballymoney co.antrim,my mum is the youngest in the family and she was born 1949,she said she can mind them leaving when she was around 8 years old,
i know its not much to go on but hope it helps a bit
thanks again zander
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In the 1979 Voters' List, they are not noted; in apartment 304 is a Margaret Dynes.
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hi eileenwilson
that sounds good,because they had an aunt called margaret dynes maiden name was acheson,she was the sister of there mother,
getting better
zander :)
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The 1974 list has an H. Dynes, warehouse manager, in the household as well -- likely her husband, who perhaps had passed away by 1979. They were living in a different apartment in the same building.
In 1962, they are living on 64th Avenue, and his name is given as Hugh. She is working as a meat packer. There is an index reference to the death of Hugh John Dynes, born 1913, died 1979 in the Edmonton Journal.
Margaret Theresa (Atcheson) Dynes died in 1999. Perhaps the other poster who called the Edmonton library can check for an obituary for these two.
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I think you can also get copies by emailing the contact person here:
http://www.albertagenealogy-research.ca/
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fantastic eileenwilson,
hugh john dynes was margarets husband who died 1979,
there was a 3rd brother as well and i have his date of birth charles anthony kelly born 19/oct/1934 he also went to edmonton alberta,
no other details yet
zander
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In an outbound passenger record from the UK, I find a Thomas Kelly, aged 48, and Charles Kelly, aged 18, of 10 McClelland Park, Dunloy, Co. Antrim, leaving for Montreal in October 1953. Bound to do farm work, but it doesn't say where.
Thomas returned home alone in September 1954 bound to the same address as above.
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thats without a dought father and son,
charles must have stayed and thats who the other 2 brothers probably went out to,
makes more sense,
also works in with the age i was saying about my mum
zander
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Since John and Charles had middle names, did James as well?
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hi eileenwilson,
not sure if james had a middle name,problem is my mum doesnt know and i have tried for a few years and still can not find proof of james and johns birth,which is strange
thanks again i appreciate your work
zander
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hi everyone,
the only other small bit of info i have' is that john had 3 children and there names where
john kelly,daniel kelly and a rose-marie kelly but no dates to help narrow down the search
zander
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Found a Incoming Passenger record for Margaret T Acheson on S.S. Empress of Britian date of arrival 7 May 1956.Port of arrival Montreal.
DOB March 17,1917 female, single
Address in United Kingdom Pharis P.O. Ballymoney,Co. Antrim
Occupation bacon wrapper
Country of last permanent address Canada
Country of intended future permanent address Canada
If visiting the U K for 12 months or less intended duration of stay 2 months
Chief purpose of visit V
Also found a passenger record for a George and Elizabeth Dynes along with John and several other children coming to Quebec ,Canada June 1926 on S.S. Montclare sailing from Belfast
Dynes family moved to Edmonton.
George Dynes died 12 Nov 1938
Elizabeth Dynes died April 23 1968
Hugh died Jan. 4,1979. Margaret died March 17, 1999
The main branch of the Edmonton is undergoing renovations so all the microfilm is being transferred to another branch on Nov. 7 and the microfilm will be available to search a few days later.
I can send a interlibrary loan request for obituaries of Margaret, Hugh and George and Elizabeth Dynes if you would like them. That is if there was a obit. Obits should indicate place of burial.
From Familysearch Ireland Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958
Margaret Theresa Acheson b. April-June 1915 Longford, Ireland
From An***try
Hugh John Dynes b. 1st quarter 1912 Reg. District Downpatrick
Lilybell
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hi lilybell,
many thanks for your time,that is the correct family ok,seems john and james kelly either went over or stayed at a time with there aunt margaret dynes,
there obits mite gave a few clues as to where they where at,i hope :)
thanks zander
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Dynes family moved to Edmonton.
George Dynes died 12 Nov 1938
Elizabeth Dynes died April 23 1968
Hugh died Jan. 4,1979. Margaret died March 17, 1999
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I can send a interlibrary loan request for obituaries of Margaret, Hugh and George and Elizabeth Dynes if you would like them. That is if there was a obit. Obits should indicate place of burial.
From Familysearch Ireland Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958
Margaret Theresa Acheson b. April-June 1915 Longford, Ireland
From An***try
Hugh John Dynes b. 1st quarter 1912 Reg. District Downpatrick
Hugh John Dynes born 7 March 1913- parents George Dynes (builder) & Elizabeth McAlea. Portaferry not near Dunloy.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01505/1611353.pdf
Can't see birth registration for a Margaret Teresa Acheson in Longford for 1915 but there is a Teresa Acheson-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01376/1566578.pdf
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hi aghadowey,
im sure that birth for hugh dynes is correct,margaret came from the loughguile direction thats why you prob cant find her there,
cheers zander
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hi aghadowey,
im sure that birth for hugh dynes is correct,margaret came from the loughguile direction thats why you prob cant find her there,
cheers zander
What Hugh Dynes birth are you talking about?
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sorry,
hugh john dynes
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Hugh John Dynes born 1913 Portaferry, Co. Down- parents as in my earlier reply. So where is the birth for Hugh John Dynes that you are referring to?
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hi aghadowey,
bit mixed up there :D was meaning that the birth for hugh john that you found in 1913 was the hugh john dynes that married my margaret acheson,the family we wher talking about
thanks :)
zander
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Then what is this birth supposed to be for? Longford is not near Loughguille.
From Familysearch Ireland Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958
Margaret Theresa Acheson b. April-June 1915 Longford, Ireland
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hi
that longford birth has nothing to do with my margaret,just same names i suppose,
my margaret acheson was born 15 march 1908,died 1999
the dates are also on her grave which i found on find a grave
zander
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hi
that longford birth has nothing to do with my margaret,just same names i suppose,
my margaret acheson was born 15 march 1908,died 1999
the dates are also on her grave which i found on find a grave
zander
Posting random information can cause confusion but you need to make sure that you post all the information you have when asking for help.
It's still a bit confusing as a birth for Margaret Theresa Acheson (1915 Longford) is posted as well as this comment so you need to be careful that you are not tracing the wrong people in Canada (or elsewhere)
The 1974 list has an H. Dynes, warehouse manager, in the household as well -- likely her husband, who perhaps had passed away by 1979. They were living in a different apartment in the same building.
In 1962, they are living on 64th Avenue, and his name is given as Hugh. She is working as a meat packer. There is an index reference to the death of Hugh John Dynes, born 1913, died 1979 in the Edmonton Journal.
Margaret Theresa (Atcheson) Dynes died in 1999. Perhaps the other poster who called the Edmonton library can check for an obituary for these two.
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thanks aghadowey,
it didnt help i think that there is 2 margaret theresas ,
but mine came from pharis po which is loughguile direction,
and married who we called a john dynes.
zander
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What surname is on her birth registration? i can't see a Margaret Acheson born 1908 anywhere :-\
When and where did she marry?
(some of these answers may be somewhere on the thread but it's become such a jumble that I'm not going to go back through it all yet again)
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When does Margaret have the middle name of T(h)eresa? birth registration? baptism? school records? etc.?
This Margaret T. Acheson born 1917 according to what has been posted- a big difference from 15 March 1908 that you say is her birthdate-
Found a Incoming Passenger record for Margaret T Acheson on S.S. Empress of Britian date of arrival 7 May 1956.Port of arrival Montreal.
DOB March 17,1917 female, single
Address in United Kingdom Pharis P.O. Ballymoney,Co. Antrim
Occupation bacon wrapper
Country of last permanent address Canada
Country of intended future permanent address Canada
If visiting the U K for 12 months or less intended duration of stay 2 months
Chief purpose of visit V
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hi aghadowey
sorry just looking for her birth details but i havent got a cert which i thought i had,
everything else on that piece is correct ,the address and all,but why have that date of birth and on her grave revert back to a 1908 date,strange
zander
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hi again,
sorry meant to say she is on the 1911 census aged 3,
still dont know why she would have said 1917 for her birth,
but you never know
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hi again,
sorry meant to say she is on the 1911 census aged 3,
still dont know why she would have said 1917 for her birth,
but you never know
There's a Maggie Achison, age 3, in 1911 census- are you sure this child survived and thy didn't reuse the name for a later child?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Castlequarter/Turnagrove/127832
If the 1956 manifest is for her there should also be record of at least one trip from U.K. to Canada and this means her marriage to John? Dynes was after 1956.
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hello again,
just checked paper work i have, maggie and her sister sarah left belfast on 19th may 1928 for canada,
says she was 19,sister sarah 17 at this time ,address they left was pharis P o ballymoney,
maggie married hugh john dynes 12 sept 1959 in edmonton alberta
zander