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Title: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: henrietta165 on Sunday 02 October 16 07:13 BST (UK)
I am trying to find the birth of my ancestor Adam Alderson. Here is what I know about him from on-line sources: He married Elizabeth Hutchinson on 29 May 1794 in the parish of St Luke, Old St, Finsbury, London. Later that year Adam became an articled clerk to an attorney in London. At this time they were living at London Wall, London. Between 1794 and 1812 they had a family of 6 girls (or possibly 7, with1 dying in infancy) and 3 boys. Adam completed his articles and became an attorney and they lived at Token House Yard.

 Adam died in 1814 and is buried at Bunhill Fields, London. He was a non-conformist. His age at death, 49, gives a birth year of about 1765.

Although all my information has his residence as London (from 1794 on), I have been unable to find a birth record for Adam Alderson in London or close by. I have a hunch that he might be the Adam Al(l)derson who was born in parish of Barnard Castle, Durham and baptized 25 Jan 1765. The parent’s of this Adam Alderson were Roger Alderson and Dorothy Plewes and he was the youngest of several children. Can anyone help me find any further information that could prove or disprove my theory? I know that my Alderson ancestors had some connection with Durham since Adam’s second eldest daughter married there in 1827. This daughter also had a cousin “Mr Burry of Durham”. And another daughter is buried in Durham, although she had lived most of her life elsewhere.
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: Lily M on Sunday 02 October 16 07:39 BST (UK)
Just to clarify the cousin's name.

From a Durham newspaper 1844
Died aged 76 Mrs.Alderson relict of Adam Alderson,Esq. solicitor of London and aunt of James Barry,Esq. of this city
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: Lily M on Sunday 02 October 16 10:28 BST (UK)
Have you been able to trace back on Elizabeth Hutchinson?

I see a James Barry gent/magistrate died in Durham in 1847 aged 60.

The closest birth I can find is for a James Berry (e not a) b.1787 Durham parents James and Sarah.

And a marriage in Pittington, Durham of a James Barry and Sarah Hutchinson.

So wondered if Sarah might be sister to Elizabeth.
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: Jolee on Monday 03 October 16 11:04 BST (UK)
Had a look at his death registration and it states his name as Aden not Adam
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: henrietta165 on Tuesday 04 October 16 13:32 BST (UK)
Thanks Lily M for the information. You have made me realise that I had some clues staring me in the face. Adam's son James named his first born son James Barry (no doubt after his mother's nephew) and his next two sons were Alfred Hayes and James Coulston (James Barry died in infancy). So it is likely that the names Hayes and Coulston also come from the family tree (and more likely from Adam and Elizabeth's side than from James wife's side). I will do some searching.
Thanks Jolee. I believe that Aden is an error - it does look like an e but the last letter is hard to read. I have his will which clearly states "Adam Alderson of Token House Yard".
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: ChrissieL on Monday 16 August 21 09:52 BST (UK)
Hello henrietta165

Although this is an old post, I was wondering if you had any luck finding the birthplace and parents of Adam Alderson.  His second daughter, Ann married Carlisle Bamlett who is a distant relative of mine.

I saw this week that Findmypast had free newspapers to look at. When I typed in the name Bamlett, a report of the marriage of Carlisle Bamlett and Ann Alderson came up giving her father's name. I was a bit surprised as in the census returns she always gives her birthplace as Durham.  It is correct though as Ann Bamlett is mentioned in her mother's will.

Chris
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 16 August 21 10:20 BST (UK)
henrietta165 you may already have this by now.

Hello Chris

Adam ALLDERSON Bapt 25 Jan 1765 Chapelry of Barnard Castle, Gainford, Durham
Father RODGER Allderson
Abode Barnard Castle
Note; Rodger Allderson junior

Sibling ANN bapt 14 Mar 1762

Burials same Church;
GRACE 18 Jul 1776, Wife of ROGER Snr
+ a RODGER 11 Jan 1784, no other details

All on FreeREG, name as Rodger/Roger and Allderson/Alderson

Trish :)
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 16 August 21 10:27 BST (UK)
Burial of DOROTHY, Wife of Rroger is there 09 Feb 1806
Age 83
Died 7th Feb. Late PLEWES. Husband's occupation - Weaver
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: ChrissieL on Monday 16 August 21 10:57 BST (UK)
Thanks for the information Trish. I did see that baptism for Adam Alderson in Bernard Castle.  The dates for perfectly and I can't see another Adam Alderson. The only very slight concern is that he didn't name any of his children after his parents.  Thanks for the burials too, I hadn't seen those.

Adam seems to have done well for himself, becoming an attorney in London.  I'll try to have a look at the rest of the Alderson family

Thanks again
Chris
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: henrietta165 on Monday 16 August 21 14:57 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Chris and Trish. Your information, plus Lily M’s contributions from 2016, have convinced me that the Adam Alderson baptised in 1765 at Barnard Castle in Durham is my ancestor. I also think it is very likely that the Sarah Hutchinson who married James Barry in Pittington (thanks Lily!) is Adam’s wife Elizabeth’s sister. This explains Adam and Elizabeth’s daughter having a cousin “Mr Burry of Durham”. (There are 3 different variations of this family name – Barry, Berry, Burry.)
As for Adam not naming any of his children after his parents – it does seem a bit unusual, but he was an articled clerk at the time of his marriage and no doubt he could see a successful future for himself as an attorney. He may have wanted to distance himself from his humble beginnings as the son of a weaver.
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: ChrissieL on Monday 16 August 21 17:24 BST (UK)
After spending some time this afternoon looking at the Alderson family, I'm sure that the Adam Alderson, who was the solicitor in London, was the Adam Alderson born in Barnard Castle.  Although he didn't name any of his children after his parents, he did name some after his siblings.
 Familysearch.org has quite a of information on the family.  One of Adams brothers, William Alderson also seem to have worked and died in London.  He was a tailor.  I looked at a copy of his will, and although I couldn't read it all, it did mention the sum of £4000, which would be an enormous amount of money today.  What really convinced me was the fact that in his will he mentioned houses that he owned in Barnard Castle.

My relative was Carlisle Bamlett, husband of Adam's second daughter, Ann.  They had 8 children and two of them had 'Barry' as part of their name - James Barry Bamlett and Sarah Louisa Barry Bamlett.

Now to try and find out more about Mr Barry!

Chris
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 17 August 21 10:55 BST (UK)
I think you are both on the right track.
Good luck with it all :)
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: ChrissieL on Tuesday 17 August 21 22:01 BST (UK)
Thank you Trish
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 18 August 21 07:00 BST (UK)


Can you please identify the ALDERSON-HUTCHINSON children....names , birth/baptism date and place
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: ChrissieL on Wednesday 18 August 21 08:14 BST (UK)


Can you please identify the ALDERSON-HUTCHINSON children....names , birth/baptism date and place

Just off to fetch our grandson for the day. I will post the details a little later. I found a very detailed will for James Barry on Familysearch giving lots of family info. Will post a link to that too

Until later....
Chris
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: ChrissieL on Wednesday 18 August 21 21:03 BST (UK)
Children of Adam Alderson and Elizabeth Hutchinson

Elizabeth Alderson: Bap 22 Mar 1795 St Leonards, Shoreditch, London
Ann Alderson: Bap 13 Nov 1796 St Lukes, Old Street, Finsbury, London
Sophia Alderson: bap 17 June 1798, St Leonards, Shoreditch, London. Bur 5 June 1799
Maria Alderson: bap 4 May 1800 St Lukes, Old Street, Finsbury, London
Sophia Alderson: bap24 April 1802 St Lukes, Old Street, Finsbury, London
Louisa Alderson: bap 27 Mar 1803 St Lukes, Old Street, Finsbury, London
Adam Abel Alderson: bap 8 April 1804 St Lukes, Old Street, Finsbury, London
James Alderson: bap 15 June 1806 St Lukes, Old Street, Finsbury, London
Catharine Alderson: 10 April 1808 St Lukes, Old Street, Finsbury, London
Henry Alderson: bap 18 Nov 1810 St Lukes, Old Street, Finsbury, London

James Barry was Elizabeth Hutchinson’s nephew.  He died 4 November 1848 in Durham.  He doesn't appear to be married or to have any siblings.  He left a detailed will and made bequests to many people including named cousins, and he also mentions his Great Grandma Charlton.  There is a copy on Familysearch.org

Chris

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-63YS-7K4

Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: henrietta165 on Thursday 19 August 21 07:27 BST (UK)
I have further info on all of Adam and Elizabeth's children that I am happy to share if anyone is interested. In particular the 3 sons, all of whom moved to Australia. I am a direct descendant of James.
Title: Re: Adam Alderson (abt 1765 – 1814). How can I find his birth and parents?
Post by: ChrissieL on Saturday 21 August 21 15:45 BST (UK)
Thank you henrietta165.....Ill send you a pm

Chris