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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: thenall on Sunday 25 September 16 08:46 BST (UK)
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i am trying to trace any family members of a liuet frank simon from the 2nd Otago regt in ww1. he also had a brother Horace in the regt, frank was kia in 1918 I think, not sure about Horace . frank married an irish girl from Dublin, frank was a medical student in Dublin at the outbreak of the war and joined the 9th batt royal Dublin fusiliers but was posted to the otagos in 1917. I have a couple of diaries from frank during and up to his death in ww1 ,they should be with a family member. [I have tried the army museum in n.z with no luck yet].
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CWGC web site gives this additional information
Son of Thomas and Edith Simon; husband of M. E. Simon, of 23, Ainger Rd., S. Hampstead, London
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CWGC website gives this additional information
Son of Thomas and Edith Simon; husband of M. E. Simon, of 23, Ainger Rd., S. Hampstead, London
Just to add the detail:
Lieutenant Frank Simon 66142 1st battalion Otago Regiment NZEF, died 10 January 1918, buried The Huts cemetery grave XV.A.16
The Commonwealth War Graves Commission page has a downloadable certificate.
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1
I couldn't find Horace Simon on the CWGC site, so he may have survived the war. There is a medal index card for Lieutenant Horace Simon of the Northumberland Fusiliers who might be your man.
All the best
Philip
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His service record states his wife moved to NZ.
Her maiden name Mary Elizabeth Cavanagh.
Add: 30 Childers Terrace Wellington.
No children listed.
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Hi thenall,
The following should help in your efforts to find family who may like Frank's diaries:-
Frank Simon's marriage notice
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THD19170510.2.19?query=frank%20simon
A 1925 Electoral roll shows Mamie Simon as a widow of 56 Oriental Parade, Wellington.
Horace Simon's marriage notice
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT19180816.2.15?query=horace%20simon
The birth of a son to Horace and Phyllis
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2F14-HDD
There are immigration records between New Zealand and Australia for Frank Derek/F D Simon on FamilySearch eg
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJDK-X8BF
There is reference to his life story on the following link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/41311545@N05/5614396376
Derek, as he was known, married Lorna Gibbs on 21 July 1949
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/138504420?searchTerm=%22mrs%20a%20paykel%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateDesc
The birth of a daughter is announced in The Sydney Morning Herald in 1953.
Horace passed away in 1984 and Phyllis in 1989
https://billiongraves.com/grave/HORACE-SIMON/9329185#
Brothers Frank B: 1890 and Horace B: 1894 also had a sister Fanny/Frances who was born to Edith nee Mat(t)hews and Thomas Simon in 1896.
Fanny's marriage notice - note she married 'Abraham' Paykel not Alf as in the notice
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19270114.2.3?query=paykel
They made their home in Australia and the 1935 NSW electoral roll gives their address as 2A cooper St., Strathfield. The birth of a daughter is announced in The Sydney Morning Herald in 1931 and the engagement of their eldest daughter in 1947.
There are immigration records for Fanny/Frances and/or Abraham on FamilySearch eg
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KL1R-MLJ
If you click back one page on this one and look at the further details for Abraham, passenger 15, there is a new address of 21 Frances Street, Lindfield, Sydney.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXH4-W3C
Abraham, who worked in the family Paykel Bros Company, passed away in 1956
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JVXW-8M9
and Fanny in 1990.
https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/frances-paykel/773860
Mother Edith Simon passed away on 12 Jan 1948 and father Thomas on 12 May 1955
https://billiongraves.com/grave/person/9103998#
Edith's will is on this link
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9V-KK8V
and Thomas', which also mentions a named grandson, on this link
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9V-28S5
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thanks for all the input. I think the Thomas brian simon mentioned in Thomas simons will , would be captain frank simons great nephew. how to find him??