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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: thenall on Sunday 25 September 16 08:46 BST (UK)

Title: simon family.
Post by: thenall on Sunday 25 September 16 08:46 BST (UK)
i am trying to trace any family members of a  liuet frank simon  from the 2nd Otago regt in ww1. he also had a brother Horace in the regt, frank was kia  in 1918 I think, not sure about Horace .  frank married an irish girl from Dublin, frank was a medical student in Dublin at the outbreak of the war and joined the 9th batt royal Dublin fusiliers but was posted to the otagos in 1917. I have a couple of diaries from frank during and up to his death in ww1 ,they should be with a family member. [I have tried the army museum in n.z with no luck yet].
Title: Re: simon family.
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 25 September 16 10:28 BST (UK)
CWGC web site gives this additional information
Son of Thomas and Edith Simon; husband of M. E. Simon, of 23, Ainger Rd., S. Hampstead, London
Title: Re: simon family.
Post by: philipsearching on Sunday 25 September 16 13:25 BST (UK)
CWGC website gives this additional information
Son of Thomas and Edith Simon; husband of M. E. Simon, of 23, Ainger Rd., S. Hampstead, London

Just to add the detail:
Lieutenant Frank Simon 66142 1st battalion Otago Regiment NZEF, died 10 January 1918, buried The Huts cemetery grave XV.A.16
The Commonwealth War Graves Commission page has a downloadable certificate.
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1

I couldn't find Horace Simon on the CWGC site, so he may have survived the war.  There is a medal index card for Lieutenant Horace Simon of the Northumberland Fusiliers who might be your man.

All the best
Philip
Title: Re: simon family.
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 25 September 16 18:09 BST (UK)
His service record states his wife moved to NZ.
Her maiden name Mary Elizabeth Cavanagh.
Add: 30 Childers Terrace Wellington.
No children listed.
Title: Re: simon family.
Post by: Avia on Monday 26 September 16 00:12 BST (UK)
Hi thenall,

The following should help in your efforts to find family who may like Frank's diaries:-


Frank Simon's marriage notice

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THD19170510.2.19?query=frank%20simon

A 1925 Electoral roll shows Mamie Simon as a widow of 56 Oriental Parade, Wellington.


Horace Simon's marriage notice

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT19180816.2.15?query=horace%20simon

The birth of a son to Horace and Phyllis

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2F14-HDD

There are immigration records between New Zealand and Australia for Frank Derek/F D Simon on FamilySearch eg

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJDK-X8BF

There is reference to his life story on the following link

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41311545@N05/5614396376

Derek, as he was known, married Lorna Gibbs on 21 July 1949

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/138504420?searchTerm=%22mrs%20a%20paykel%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateDesc

The birth of a daughter is announced in The Sydney Morning Herald in 1953.

Horace passed away in 1984 and Phyllis in 1989

https://billiongraves.com/grave/HORACE-SIMON/9329185#


Brothers Frank B: 1890 and Horace B: 1894 also had a sister Fanny/Frances who was born to Edith nee Mat(t)hews and Thomas Simon in 1896.

Fanny's marriage notice - note she married 'Abraham' Paykel not Alf as in the notice

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19270114.2.3?query=paykel

They made their home in Australia and the 1935 NSW electoral roll gives their address as 2A cooper St., Strathfield.  The birth of a daughter is announced in The Sydney Morning Herald in 1931 and the engagement of their eldest daughter in 1947.

There are immigration records for Fanny/Frances and/or Abraham on FamilySearch eg

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KL1R-MLJ

If you click back one page on this one and look at the further details for Abraham, passenger 15, there is a new address of 21 Frances Street, Lindfield, Sydney.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXH4-W3C

Abraham, who worked in the family Paykel Bros Company, passed away in 1956

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JVXW-8M9

and Fanny in 1990.

https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/frances-paykel/773860


Mother Edith Simon passed away on 12 Jan 1948 and father Thomas on 12 May 1955

https://billiongraves.com/grave/person/9103998#

Edith's will is on this link

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9V-KK8V

and Thomas', which also mentions a named grandson, on this link

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9V-28S5



Title: Re: simon family.
Post by: thenall on Monday 26 September 16 01:45 BST (UK)
thanks for all the input. I think  the Thomas brian simon  mentioned in  Thomas simons will , would be captain frank simons great nephew.  how to find him??