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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Wexflyer on Sunday 25 September 16 03:58 BST (UK)
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Is there any way to tell which specific Catholic records Roots Ireland make available? By this I mean, a list of parishes and dates. To give an example, if I go to rootsireland.ie (http://rootsireland.ie) and look up Wexford, it gives just raw numbers of BDMs available online, nothing that I can see to say which parishes, which dates?
This lack of basic info, and other reasons, has meant that I have never given them them any custom, so it interesting to see them complain recently about the parish records becoming available on competing commercial services.
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Hi Wex,
Which dates are you referring to?
Annie
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Free to search Catholic Parish Registers but I haven't looked at what dates;
http://registers.nli.ie/
Annie
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Free to search Catholic Parish Registers but I haven't looked at what dates;
http://registers.nli.ie/
Annie
Thanks, I am familiar with the NLI records. However, I am specifically interested in knowing more about the Roots Ireland records for two reasons:
First, the Roots Ireland records are NOT derived from the NLI microfilms. Roots Ireland had access to the original parish records, and in some cases have indexed records both earlier and later than the NLI records.
Second, Roots Ireland (as far as I can tell), do an awful job of self-promotion. I can't tell which specific records they have available. Which parishes, for what dates!
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I once got a quote from them (I sent an email) & I was as cheap with the original as there's is a transcription!
Annie
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Yes...I did send for originals.
Annie
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Of course you can email them with your queries.
Annie
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Of course you can email them with your queries.
Annie
I will try that if necessary, but was just wondering if I had missed this information online somewhere. I must also say that when I did try and engage with a predecessor county organisation, they refused to provide any details without payment up-front, which I thought a bit perverse (requiring payment to be even willing to discuss what they might be able to provide!).
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Best I can find is via this route:
(Without logging in!)
Select a county from the map at the bottom of the home page (scroll down).
Click on "Online Sources" in the menu bar.
I have attached an image of the first few parishes from Kilkenny:
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Here's the direct link to the Wexford sources page:
http://wexford.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/wexford/sources.tpl (http://wexford.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/wexford/sources.tpl)
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wexflyer,
who are you looking for? you need to search by name.....it's a bit easier.
These records are also in Ancestry.
I have membership until November.
Maggsie
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Best I can find is via this route:
(Without logging in!)
Select a county from the map at the bottom of the home page (scroll down).
Click on "Online Sources" in the menu bar.
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Here's the direct link to the Wexford sources page:
http://wexford.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/wexford/sources.tpl (http://wexford.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/wexford/sources.tpl)
Thank you both! This is precisely what I was looking for. Now that I can see what is available it is clear that they only have a limited number of Co. Wexford parishes online, which is exactly what I suspected from the low total number of BMDs they listed for the county. I wonder why - the county genealogy center had many more records indexed over 20 years ago....
Again, very useful!
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wexflyer,
who are you looking for? you need to search by name.....it's a bit easier.
These records are also in Ancestry.
I have membership until November.
Maggsie
Thank you, but I have access for Ancestry for free myself, and it is not simply a question of a name - I have been researching all the lines listed in my signature block for the last 20 years. Again, the reason I am specifically interested in what Roots Ireland have available is that their material is NOT necessarily the same as what Ancestry and the NLI have. An interesting example of this is in the link provided by "Dolmen"
http://wexford.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/wexford/sources.tpl (http://wexford.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/wexford/sources.tpl)
If you follow that, you will see that it says that they have baptisms for the parish of Tagoat from 1812 to 1910. But the NLI and and Ancestry records only start in 1853, and end in 1880.
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It's not just the time periods covered which can differ, the information in the records they have in common can also differ.
It not unusual to only get the couple and wittness' on a marriage on NLI, while RootsIreland will also have at least the fathers names sometimes mother as well.
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Thank you, but I have access for Ancestry for free myself, and it is not simply a question of a name - I have been researching all the lines listed in my signature block for the last 20 years. Again, the reason I am specifically interested in what Roots Ireland have available is that their material is NOT necessarily the same as what Ancestry and the NLI have. An interesting example of this is in the link provided by "Dolmen"
http://wexford.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=centres/wexford/sources.tpl
If you follow that, you will see that it says that they have baptisms for the parish of Tagoat from 1812 to 1910. But the NLI and and Ancestry records only start in 1853, and end in 1880.
Names...........
Yes you do get more from rootsireland.
Maggsie