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B: 01.11.1896 Small Heath Birmingham.
Parents were Frances Gould and Elizabeth Kendall. Birth certificate has wrong Parents.
Any ideas please ?
Debbie
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B: 01.11.1896 Small Heath Birmingham.
Parents were Frances Gould and Elizabeth Kendall. Birth certificate has wrong Parents.
Any ideas please ?
Debbie
When you say the birth certificate has the wrong parents recorded do you actually mean this is not the birth registration of the person you are looking for?
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This is your Elsie and family ?
1901 RG13 Piece 2862 Folio 13 Page 17
Small Heath, Warwickshire
Frances Gould 51 Railway clerk W'hampton, Staffordshire
Eliz Gould 36 Walsall
Harry Gould 18 polisher? bicycle trade W'hampton
Percy Gould 17 Railway engine cleaner W'hampton
Thomas Gould 15 polisher cycle trade Small Heath
Herbert Gould 13 Small Heath
Francis Gould 12 Small Heath
Elsie Gould 6 Small Heath
Winefred Gould 3 Small Heath
You can actually order a birth certificate from the GRO specifying the parents must be Frances and Eliza. They will search one year either side of the specified birth year. If they can't find a match you receive a refund
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Thank you Crisane
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Hello Crisane,
Sorry for late reply. I'm trying to help a friend who doesn't have the internet. We have the family on the 1901 and 1911 census. The Birth certificate he received had the Parents as Alfred Gould and Harriet Insley. Her Parents were Frances Edward Gould and Elizabeth Kendall. Also unable to find any baptisms for any of her siblings.
The GRO weren't very helpful, suggested he did some more research ?
Regards
Debbie
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Forgot to add the index references he used to order BC
Aston
Vol 6d
page 433
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If you want the GRO to do a search do not put the volume, page number. Then on the second page tell them you want a birth registration for an Elsie Gould whose parents must be Francis Edward Gould and Elizabeth nee Kendall.
I would be inclined to leave out all persons middle names just in case they weren't used on the birth registration.
Is that the family I gave in the 1901 census. If so ll the children born Small Heath which was not in the Aston registration district
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According to Genuki, Small Heath was transferred to Birmingham from Aston in 1920,
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Not wrong parents, wrong Elsie:
Name: Elsie May Gould
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1897
Baptism Place: St Peter and St Paul, Aston, Warwick, England
Father: Albert Gould
Mother: Harriet
FHL Film Number: 1545529
Jamjar
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Thanks for the replies.
Wrong Elsie makes sense now.
Regards.
Debbie
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Percy marries 22 December 1907 - Francis Edward given as father. Witnesses are Harry Bernard and Frances Mabel Gould.
Harry Bernard marries 12 April 1903 - Francis Edward (deceased) given as father.
Francis Edward Gould dies September quarter 1902 - Birmingham - aged 52
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Thank you BumbleB
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I can't readily see any registration for Elsie (6 in 1901 and 17 in 1911) in Aston or Birmingham 1892-1896.
Winifred May registered June quarter 1897 - Aston - volume 6d, page 301
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I am struggling as well.
Winifred May is her Sister.
Thank you for trying BB
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Extending further - there is a registration June quarter 1893 - Warwick - 6d 605 - for Elsie Rose Gould.
Alternatively, she was registered under an entirely different name, later to be called "Elsie" :o :o
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Did Elsie marry? If so, what name was she registered under - Elsie or Elsie ???
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Elsie W Gould
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So she married Edward Goostry in 1912. Does your friend have the marriage certificate to confirm what the W stands for - I'm assuming that it was Winifred :-\
Again there is no birth registration for Elsie Winifred or Winifred Elsie in the given timescale :o
Winifred May 1897 is the only one - 3 in 1901 and 14 in 1911, as opposed to Elsie 6 and 17 respectively :) marrying Thomas H Hunt in June quarter 1919 :-\
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I'm now even more confused :o
If Elsie W married Edward Goostry in 1912, then by 1939 that initial has changed to M and the birth date doesn't tally.
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Yes, she changes from Elsie W to Elsie M in 1925 and 1939 .
I'm waiting to see if my friend has the marriage certificate.
Where doesn't the birth date tally ?
Regards
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1939 entry - 11 December 1892 - applies to Goostry
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Thank you...missed that...Strange ?
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The GRO cannot find Elsies birth ?
I am also struggling with
Harry Bernard b: 1883
Percy Kendall b: 1884
Any suggestions please ?
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GRO showing birth of a Winifred May Gould mmn Kendall June quarter 1897 in Aston. Could that be her?
Isobel
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Winifred May is Elsies Sister
Thank you
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Harry Burnard Kendall born Woverhampton June quarter 1882 and Percy Gould Kendall March quarter 1884 in Wolverhampton. Both births predate the 1884 marriage and recorded under Elizabeth's maiden name.
Isobel
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Thank you so much Isobel...Just Elsie now ?