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Title: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: BAC3 on Friday 16 September 16 14:47 BST (UK)
Hello,

This is a hoping against hope request 8)

Isaac WARBURTON was born in Manchester 1828/1829, father Isaac, mother not known.  He arrived at Williamstown, aboard the Marion, on 25/01/1848 as an EXILE, having been sentenced to 7 years transportation on 05/09/1844.   PROV have no record of him re-offending and TROVE no newspaper reports.   I wonder if someone could kindly research the BDM indexes just in case ??? ???

For the moment and thank you,

BAC3
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: robo196 on Friday 16 September 16 21:56 BST (UK)
found a issac warburton occupation scavenger

Year
1844

Date
05 Sep 1844

Crime
Stealing

Sentence duration
7

Place
Parkhurst

Court
Manchester

County
-

Source
Millbank Prison Registers: Male Prisoners. Volume 1

Series
HO24

Piece number
then another record say he was a sawyer sent to australia
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: rosball on Saturday 17 September 16 00:11 BST (UK)
On trove there are a number of mentions in NSW Government Gazettes of an Isaac Warburton applying for timber licences.  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ihw/   (and robo found he was a sawyer)

On NSW BDM  http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/ there is a death
1901  Isaac WARBURTON unknown parents Newtown reg 6376/1901


Ros
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Saturday 17 September 16 01:03 BST (UK)
On NSW BDM  http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/ there is a death
1901  Isaac WARBURTON unknown parents Newtown reg 6376/1901

This one is buried a Rookwood with the age given as 58yrs  :-\

http://www.rookwoodcemetery.com.au/deceased-search-engine
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: majm on Saturday 17 September 16 05:22 BST (UK)
From indexes for the NSW Government Gazette (hardcopies are in the public reading rooms at the NSW State Records Office at Kingswood NSW)

Isaac Warburton
10 Oct 1867 Timber Cutters Berrima
23 Mar 1869 Timber Cutters  Berrima
08 Jun 1869 Timber Cutters Goulburn   (so further down the same 'main' road)

From NSW BDM online index MARRIAGES
Isaac WARBURTON and Jane CLOUT #1627, registered at Berrima in 1865.

ALSO re
On NSW BDM  http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/ there is a death
1901  Isaac WARBURTON unknown parents Newtown reg 6376/1901

This one is buried a Rookwood with the age given as 58yrs  :-\

http://www.rookwoodcemetery.com.au/deceased-search-engine

That's a double plot  :) in the old C of E  .... Isaac was buried 18 June 1901.

Section 4 ROW 18
Plot number
4255,4256


Re WARBURTON to Goulburn  ;D

NSW ER 1870 ARGYLE
Thomas WARBURTON Snr, Mount Otway, residence
Isaac WARBURTON, Mount Otway, residence

JM
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: majm on Saturday 17 September 16 05:38 BST (UK)
NSW ER 1878 CAMDEN
Berrima Police District
WARBURTON as under
John, Sutton Forest, residence
Isaac, Jordan’s Crossing, residence
Thomas, Jordan’s Crossing, residence
James , Jordan’s Crossing, residence
Joseph George, Caoura,  freehold

CLOUT …. under :
Henry, Sutton Forest, household, Sutton Forest Railway Line
Edward, Jordan’s Crossing, residence
William, Jordan’s Crossing, residence
Charles, Barren Ground, residence
John, Barren Ground, residence
George, Jordan’s Crossing, residence,
James, Barren Ground, residence.
William, senior, Jordan’s Crossing, Barren Ground.

JM
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 17 September 16 06:03 BST (UK)
Hi,

Old NSW Maps for the Parish of BUMBALLA, County of CAMDEN still show land leased or owned by   Isaac Warburton.

Go into the "Historical Lands Record Viewer" and go from there.  Search under BUMBALLA and cancelled parish maps will come up, I selected the last one on page 2.

http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/land_titles/historical_records_online/historical_maps_cancelled_editions

Gerry
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: judb on Saturday 17 September 16 06:12 BST (UK)
Just wondering if this is the same chap if the 1878 ERs seem to show quite few of the same surname.  Obviously they could be his sons rather than his brothers which is what I thought at first.

Sorry - brain not engaged properly this afternoon!

Judith
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: BAC3 on Saturday 17 September 16 11:33 BST (UK)
Good Morning Everyone,

Thank you for the research........I really am grateful because of the possibilities. 

I had previously noted via TROVE the references to Berrima but wondered about the distance from Melbourne (in those days ::)), although keeping it as an option.  The marriage to Jane CLOUT is quite interesting as it dovetails with the "sawyer/Berrima" details  How do I find further details other than raising a mortgage for a Certificate!?

Lastly, the death in 1901 I tend to reject, purely on age grounds.....he was 58 making 1843 his birth date, that is, 15 years later than the quoted birth in the caption.   I accept ages in those days were sometimes guesswork.

The marriage to Jane CLOUT is the key I believe.......his father, by the way, was also ISAAC.

For now and thank you all once again.   I think we may be on the right track.

BAC3

Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: BAC3 on Saturday 17 September 16 13:59 BST (UK)
Hello,

I googled Jane CLOUT and A.......y kindly provided the following information:

She married Isaac WARBURTON and had 11 children, some of whom were born in "Sutton Forest" which I believe is in the same area as Berrima.  The first child was born in 1866 and the last in 1884.   Sadly, other than a mention of Jane CLOUT's parents no other leading/salient details available.

BAC3
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Saturday 17 September 16 15:21 BST (UK)
I doubt that Isaac WARBURTON who married Jane CLOUT is the one you are looking for.

I have sent you a link to Isaac's 1901 death certificate.
Title: Re: Victoria: Isaac WARBURTON, born 1828/29, Manchester
Post by: BAC3 on Saturday 17 September 16 15:37 BST (UK)
Hello Merlin,

Thank you for this and the Death Certificate link in your PM.

I had originally discounted the 58 year old Isaac WARBURTON who died in 1901 as being too young......this marriage to Jane CLOUT appeared to be a different person but now, of course, the Death Certificate probably makes all this thread's references to Isaac WARBURTON of Berrima ineligible.   Hey Ho!!!   The joys of genealogy ;D

BAC3