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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: andarah1 on Friday 09 September 16 22:36 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know of a reason why a baby would have been registered as deceased when she wasn't?
We have a birth in 1900 naming her as `female' and then a death naming her as `female'. She was born 9 months, 11 days after her sister. She was raised in a foundling home and the mother put on the 1911 census that she had a child who had died. The only child unaccounted for is the one in the foundling home. The father wasn't in the home in 1911 (two residences), but he's the one who signed the census.
Does anyone know why/how this would have happened? Maybe she was born prematurely, assumed she would die, taken away and when she survived, not returned to her parents???
The registration is in Croydon, Essex. Thank you!
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Didn't you need a doctor's certificate in order to register a death??
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I don't know. That's why I'm asking. :)
I am confused as to how this happened. Even if someone in the family didn't want the baby and gave her to the foundling home, there wouldn't be a death registration. Why/how would a baby's death be registered who didn't die???
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At that time the mother's maiden name is not shown in the index, do you have the birth and death certificates to be sure it is the same child?
Croydon is in Surrey, not Essex, did you mean Roydon which comes under Harlow?
Jebber
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We have a birth in 1900 naming her as `female' and then a death naming her as `female'.
Unusual to register the birth of a child who is still living in that way (ie) without a christian name More usual when it is a child who has died shortly after birth
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Was the surname Phenie, Collins or Taylor as each of those surnames match births and deaths in Croydon 1900 - christian name "female"?
Phenie - birth & death March qtr
Collins B & D Sept qtr
Taylor B & D December qtr
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andarah1 has gone off line, so nothing more can be done to help tonight.
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And I am off on holiday tomorrow so unlikely to be doing any more replies
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Have a good time.
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Cheers - will do
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I'm a bit confused - if she was raised in a foundling home, was it under her birth name, why would they do that if her mother was around? How do you know that child is the correct one? Even though the mother said she had one child who died, it could have been a still birth that wouldn't show up on the normal BMD registers.
As Jebber said, Croydon definitely isn't Essex - wrong side of the Thames.
Have a lovely holiday Carole.
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Sorry! I had to take my son to work. Yes, it's in Surrey. They also lived in Essex, and I had them mixed up.
She was born to unmarried parents. Father's name was Eccles and mother was Collins, so she was registered as `female Eccles' and also as `female Collins'. Her death was registered as `female Collins'. The parents married 2 years later. She was raised in a foundling home, never knowing her family. Her family wasn't poor and all the other children stayed with the parents. There were 6 children altogether and the 1911 census says the mother had 6 children, with 5 still living and 1 dead (all 6 were alive).
We have the birth certificate and the death certificate. The birth certificate, issued in the 1940s lists her name (she must have been able to prove she was that baby). The death certificate shows the same death date as was her birthdate in Aug 1900. She was born 9 months, 11 days after her sister (she must have been premature).
I made another post about this individual a couple years ago, but we were trying to figure something else out. It was a HUGE help. Since I am really just trying to figure out how this mistake could have happened (what process was used), I didn't think it was related. Sorry if that's wrong!
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Here's a link to the previous post, what a fascinating story!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=737979.0
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Isn't it? I agree! This twist has made it even more fascinating!