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Title: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Chris5856 on Wednesday 07 September 16 23:08 BST (UK)
Im really struggling to find out what happened to this man.

James arrived in Coatbridge around 1900 with his wife Rosetta. They had four kids. Mary, Robert John, Hannah and Daniel all before 1907. Between the last birth and 1911, Rosetta is committed to Hartwood and is there on 1911 census. She will remain there until her death in 1953. The death certificate says married to James Dalrymple which indicates he may still have been alive by then. The children return to Ireland to be brought up by Rosetta's sister. James just disappears. I can't find a death for him, nothing. He was born in Antrim on 17 April 1879. Ive searched ancestry and Scotlands People without success.

Any help would be appreciated. Chris
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: skippy on Thursday 08 September 16 10:57 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

What was your James's occupation ?
There is a probate of will showing James Dalrymple died on 8/1/1908, a farmer from Connor county, Antrim.
There is also a birth forJames Dalrymple b.17/4/1879 in Gorteighy, Antrim , with parents Robert and Mary Dalrymple McKenna .
Found on familysearch site which is free to view.

regards
skippy
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Chris5856 on Thursday 08 September 16 11:17 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

What was your James's occupation ?
There is a probate of will showing James Dalrymple died on 8/1/1908, a farmer from Connor county, Antrim.
There is also a birth forJames Dalrymple b.17/4/1879 in Gorteighy, Antrim , with parents Robert and Mary Dalrymple McKenna .
Found on familysearch site which is free to view.



regards
skippy
Hi Skippy,

Thanks for that. I have the birthday ok. I had a look at the wills, its not him. He was an Iron work labourer in 1901 and Iron Heater in 1904

Cheers for trying though

Chris
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: amberdog on Thursday 08 September 16 11:56 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, it's a long shot, but drop an email to the Medical Archivist to see if there is any information available on Rosetta they could release to you.  You never know what they could turn up for you in terms of next of kin etc.

http://www.archives.gla.ac.uk/gghb/collects/lk13.html
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: sancti on Thursday 08 September 16 14:35 BST (UK)
Chris have you checked marriages for his children to see if he is recorded as deceased on any of them?
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: sancti on Thursday 08 September 16 14:56 BST (UK)
Possible marriage for Robert John in 1926 and states father James is a farmer
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Chris5856 on Thursday 08 September 16 16:15 BST (UK)
Possible marriage for Robert John in 1926 and states father James is a farmer

Excellent Sacnti. Where is it? Chris

Cancel that, Ive found it on SP. Its not him. :-(
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 08 September 16 19:03 BST (UK)
On the immigration record for son Daniel Born 1904 Coatbridge  (farm labourer ) arriving New York 1 June 1930 ...Gives his mother's name Mrs Rosetta Dalrymple ..Drumoak Rasharkin Co Antrim  as nearest relative came from
Rosie
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Chris5856 on Thursday 08 September 16 19:10 BST (UK)
On the immigration record for son Daniel Born 1904 Coatbridge  (farm labourer ) arriving New York 1 June 1930 ...Gives his mother's name Mrs Rosetta Dalrymple ..Drumoak Rasharkin Co Antrim  as nearest relative came from
Rosie

Thanks for that Rosie.
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Chris5856 on Friday 09 September 16 10:58 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, it's a long shot, but drop an email to the Medical Archivist to see if there is any information available on Rosetta they could release to you.  You never know what they could turn up for you in terms of next of kin etc.

http://www.archives.gla.ac.uk/gghb/collects/lk13.html

Thanks for your suggestion. I'll give it a try. Chris
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Chris5856 on Friday 09 September 16 11:02 BST (UK)
Still drawing a blank

Can't find anything on familysearch either. With Sancti's suggestion I managed to find the children in Antrim on 1911 Irish census, staying with their mothers sister. There's a possible leaving a boat for NYC in 1912, but nothing on the other side of the pond.

Chris
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 09 September 16 11:19 BST (UK)
Have you managed to trace the father James in the later census ?
Rosie
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: skippy on Friday 09 September 16 11:27 BST (UK)
Chris,
Do you have him on the 1911 scottish census ?

There is this one .
James Dalrymple, b 1881.
Occupation. Moulder.
Travelling from Glasgow to New York 25/3/1911.
Seems to be travelling with a David Duncan. occupation Painter.
Both giving their place of residence as Kirkintilloch and going to stay with a friend Thomas , looks like Puham/Rihan address Eastwood Park, St. Louis, Missouri.
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 09 September 16 11:34 BST (UK)
Think you can rule that one out Skippy he lists his father as James Dalrymple 103 Townhead Kirkintillock
Rosie
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: skippy on Friday 09 September 16 11:39 BST (UK)
O.K rosie,

Thank you
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Chris5856 on Friday 09 September 16 11:57 BST (UK)
Have you managed to trace the father James in the later census ?
Rosie

Hi Rosie.

I'm afraid not . Just the mother in Hartwood and the kids with their aunt in Ireland.

Chris
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Chris5856 on Friday 09 September 16 11:59 BST (UK)
Chris,
Do you have him on the 1911 scottish census ?

There is this one .
James Dalrymple, b 1881.
Occupation. Moulder.
Travelling from Glasgow to New York 25/3/1911.
Seems to be travelling with a David Duncan. occupation Painter.
Both giving their place of residence as Kirkintilloch and going to stay with a friend Thomas , looks like Puham/Rihan address Eastwood Park, St. Louis, Missouri.

Hi Skippy. This James eventually heads to the US. It's not the same one.

Thanks for looking

Chris
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: skippy on Friday 09 September 16 16:13 BST (UK)
Have you tried looking at these Scotlandspeople for the 1911 ?

James Dalrymple age 32 in Wemyss/Fife
James Dalrymple age 32 in Leith, Edinburgh
James Dalrymple age 32 in Kirkmahoe/Dumfries
James Dalrymple age 34 in Possilpark, Glasgow.

On the 1901 census your James and family are living in Ellis Street with the Carlin family, are they related ?
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Chris5856 on Friday 09 September 16 21:33 BST (UK)
Have you tried looking at these Scotlandspeople for the 1911 ?

James Dalrymple age 32 in Wemyss/Fife
James Dalrymple age 32 in Leith, Edinburgh
James Dalrymple age 32 in Kirkmahoe/Dumfries
James Dalrymple age 34 in Possilpark, Glasgow.

On the 1901 census your James and family are living in Ellis Street with the Carlin family, are they related ?


Hi Skippy, yes I have. The Dumfries one is possible but again difficult to confirm. The family do not know anything about the Carlin family.
Title: Re: James Dalrymple Coatbridge
Post by: Cbeattie_x on Sunday 24 May 20 22:52 BST (UK)
hey chris, did you ever find where this James Dalrymple went? as i'm related to him through my grandafther, very distant but still a bloodline, all the information adds up on my tree