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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: ktravers on Tuesday 06 September 16 20:11 BST (UK)
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Hi. I am researching Doherty and Deeny line - John Doherty was born in Grange, Inch, in October 1897. His father was Daniel "Inch" Doherty and Mary Deeny, married at St Johnston Chapel, Strabane, Co. Donegal Dec 30 1895.
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Are you looking for help to find more information?
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I'm interested in contacting anyone looking at the same family. I'm having trouble finding them on the census!
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Doherty (and variations) probably most common surname in Donegal/Derry area. Strabane in in Co.Tyrone with Lifford on the other side of the border which might mean a wider area for you to search. St. Johnston, however, is not that close to Strabane.
Could this be a possibility for the family?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Inch/Baylet/1189852
Looks like the infant son Hugh with Deeny's in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Inch_Island/Carrickanee/499792
Michael Deeny in 1901?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Inch/Moress/1189907/
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You are a star! That's them! John is my grandfather. Daniel has a different spelling so that is possibly why I couldn't find them. Thanks so much. My grandmother is also Doherty from Buncrana so it's quite challenging but I've been more successful there. I was in Buncrana at the weekend and even met relatives I hadn't met before. Next time I can do some more work on grandad's side now. Cheers!
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Sometimes less information into the search boxes is better ;)
In 1901 I put in John's first name, County Donegal and age 3. Then sorted the results by surname alphabetically and skipped ahead to any variation of Doherty. Luckily you'd given his parents' names.
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Good tip! Thanks again :)
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How interesting....just found this on the 1911 census. From house 8 to house 12 in Baylet! I reckon it's the same family? http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Inch_Island/Baylet/499779/
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The numbers are not house numbers they are the number of the Census form.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002106776/
It's usually only in large towns and citys where the form number and house number match.
Rural houses don't even today usually have numbers, which is why our new postcode system gives each house in the entire country a unique postcode.
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Thanks for that info. Was getting a bit confused. Here in Scotland the postcode covers a wide area so trying to find a particular house - especially using sat nav - is useless! It takes you to one location in a rural area.
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Hi
Hopefully the users on this feed are still active after all this time!
I am also tracing Dohertys from Grange, Inch, Donegal and after seeing your post I wonder if we have any cross overs?
I have:
Alfred Dougherty 1891-1938
Alfred's father = Robert Doherty c1851-1912
Alfred's grandfather = James Doherty c1790-1882
I've got some details of siblings and marriages and can't see a John Doherty on there but wonder if there is any commonality given the close proximity?
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Hi. Still here! I don’t recognise any of those names but there were a few Doherty families in Inch. I’ll see if do have any info that might help.
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A belated welcome to RootsChat, jubz :)
Here are some links that might help others to help you.
I have:
Alfred Dougherty 1891-1938
Alfred's father = Robert Doherty c1851-1912
Alfred's grandfather = James Doherty c1790-1882
1911 census for Robert Dougherty
House 2 in Grange (Inch Island, Donegal)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Inch_Island/Grange/499819/
.....and in 1901 as Doherty
House 8 in Grange (Inch, Donegal)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Inch/Grange/1189897/
Marriage of Robert Doherty to Eliza PEOPLES on 3 December 1885 at Inch Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10883/5974675.pdf
Looks like she was living in the townland of Moress, Inch.
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/inishowen-west/inch/inch-island/moress/
Death of Robert Doherty in 1912.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05373/4498783.pdf
Birth of Alfred Doherty - 1891
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02400/1894820.pdf
Birth of Minnie Priscilla Doherty - 1886 at Morass (sic), Inch
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02582/1954137.pdf
Death of James Doherty - 1882 at Grange, Inch (widower). His son Robert was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06385/4832891.pdf
KG
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Birth of Minnie Priscilla Doherty - 1886 at Morass (sic), Inch
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02582/1954137.pdf
Marriage of Minnie Priscilla Dougherty to William White on 17 November 1910 at Inch Presbyterian Church. James A Dougherty, her brother was one of the witnesses. William White from Beltoy Lorne (sic).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/10000/5636664.pdf
1911 census
House 2 in Beltoy (Raloo, Antrim).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Raloo/Beltoy/189862/
Beltoy townland
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/belfast-lower/raloo/beltoy/
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Hi ktravers
Hi. Still here! I don’t recognise any of those names but there were a few Doherty families in Inch. I’ll see if do have any info that might help.
Thanks so much for the reply. I'd be really interested if we find a crossover. I have done quite a bit of research but with so many Dohertys in the area I can't confirm which are extended family! I thought it was worth a punt with the link to Grange.
Jubz
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Hi Kiltaglassan
A belated welcome to RootsChat, jubz :)
Here are some links that might help others to help you.
Thanks for the welcome! :) and thank you so much for taking the time to do the searches. Apologies, I should have perhaps included more details in my earlier post! I have done quite a bit of research but have hit the wall (mainly with the limitations of records available).
So far I have been using all the available online resources, would anyone have any tips for the next steps? Would parish records for this area be held in PRONI or in Dublin - some pre-partition records are Donegal, others are Londonderry?
Also would anyone know if there any physical records held locally on Inch? In addition to birth/deaths/marriage, is there a way to access burial records for this area?
Many thanks
Jubz
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This website is useful......you may find something on your families on it
donegalgenealogy.com
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Marriage of Minnie Priscilla Dougherty to William White on 17 November 1910 at Inch Presbyterian Church. James A Dougherty, her brother was one of the witnesses. William White from Beltoy Lorne (sic).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/10000/5636664.pdf
Just adding for the benefit of others reading, that this might be the death of Minnie White nee Dougherty.
Minnie White 12th January 1950 61 Female Larne
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
The following White children. MMN Dougherty/Dogherty/Doherty
Agnes Elizabeth White born 5 August 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01522/1617921.pdf
Minnie Priscilla White born 22 May 1914
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01406/1578179.pdf
Eleanor Mulholland White born 25 March 1921
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1921/01187/1494434.pdf
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This website is useful......you may find something on your families on it
donegalgenealogy.com
Thanks for the recommendation shanreagh! This is a really helpful site.
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Just adding for the benefit of others reading, that this might be the death of Minnie White nee Dougherty.
Minnie White 12th January 1950 61 Female Larne
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
The following White children. MMN Dougherty/Dogherty/Doherty
Agnes Elizabeth White born 5 August 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01522/1617921.pdf
Minnie Priscilla White born 22 May 1914
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01406/1578179.pdf
Eleanor Mulholland White born 25 March 1921
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1921/01187/1494434.pdf
Hi Kiltaglassan
I have the date of death confirmed for Minnie White nee Dougherty as 1975. I hadn't been able to identify Eleanor so this is really interesting - thank you. I had the other two sister's details but the third daughter went by "May" so hadn't connected this record. I have their dates of death.
I think Robert Doherty had a brother James who could be James Doherty c1847-1897 who married Jane Dixon and had 7 children, Sarah, Robert, Thomas, John, Catherine, Martha and Alice. I have birth / census records but haven't found their marriage record. I note the 1901 census shows Jane and children as Roman Catholic while Robert and family are Irish Church so wonder if it was a cross-religion marriage and they married elsewhere or if this could be why I can't find it?
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http://www.donegalgenealogy.com
Dogherty James at Grange on Griffiths valuation (different spelling of name)
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http://www.donegalgenealogy.com
Dogherty James at Grange on Griffiths valuation (different spelling of name)
Hi rathmore
Thank you for the reply. Yes I found the same and believe this is my ancestor. I wasn't sure if there was any way to further progress this so any tips would be appreciated! I am aware there were some interim records which showed updates to tenants and that there are some landlord records but haven't got any further with this.
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They were possible flax seed growers
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They were possible flax seed growers
That is so interesting thank you. How can you tell? Is that local knowledge / allocated acreage / landlord?
I found the Irish Flax Growers List 1796 available online: https://www.failteromhat.com/flax/donegal.php
There are 3 Doghertys listed at Inch: James, George and John. 1796 would pre-date my current research and be a further generation back. It would be great if I could confirm a link.
For anyone looking at Dogherty / Doughertys in Donegal - there are plenty of others on there!