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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Terry M on Tuesday 06 September 16 19:43 BST (UK)
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Hello
i am looking for my grandfathers brother Donald Edward Wilkinson born 11 Nov 1903. He boarded the SS Borda in London England Nov 16 1922 bound for Sydney Australia stated purpose Immigration
I can't find him arriving Where would i look for ships arrivals
regards
terry
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Well I thought I had found something for you but then realised the dates were wrong - sorry!
Karen
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There is someone of that name in Victorian electoral rolls from 1942 on.
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There's also this death, in the Victorian BDM index.
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my Donald Edward Wilkinson listed his profession on the boat as a clerk Was the one listed in 42 an engineer I found two a plumber and a furrier - My fellow came from a family the father was ships lamp maker / business owner I assume he had a good education. He had two brothers run away to Canada 1904-08 both listed themselves as carpenters
Will an Australian death cert give fathers name and profession
Terry
Canada
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The index I posted has father's and mother's names. Unfortunately, as my Ancestry sub has run out, I can't look at the electoral roll, only the search result.
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This is the fuller indexing of the death of the man given above,
Coburg is an inner suburb of Melbourne.
WILKINSON Donald Edward
Father David Edward
Mother Florence Ada HODGES
Death Place COBU
Age 53
Year 1975
Reg 28528
If you give full particulars of the names of the parents of the man, his birthdate and any other family details, some here may be able to assist.
In answer to your question about information on Australian certificates, see here.
http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html
Sue
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my Donald Edward Wilkinson listed his profession on the boat as a clerk Was the one listed in 42 an engineer I found two a plumber and a furrier - My fellow came from a family the father was ships lamp maker / business owner I assume he had a good education. He had two brothers run away to Canada 1904-08 both listed themselves as carpenters
Will an Australian death cert give fathers name and profession
Terry
Canada
A death certificate will only have the father's details if the notifier knew of them, and that's not always known! Information on a death cert is unfortunately not always as much as we would like or expect to see.
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I can't find him arriving Where would i look for ships arrivals
regards
terry
It appears that the Borda went straight from the UK to Melbourne via Adelaide, arriving in Vic in Jan 1923. The NAA have only indexed the passengers arriving via Fremantle in WA for that time period and these are what you see on the subscription websites. As the ship did not stop there you will not find him indexed.
Passengers who disembarked in Victoria up to 1923 are indexed at http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=23.
Passengers arriving into Sydney are only indexed up to 1922 on subscription websites.
You would need to contact the NAA and they will quote for a copy of the relevant manifest page.
http://reftracker.naa.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=02PassRef
You may like to look through the file for that voyage to see if he is mentioned:
http://soda.naa.gov.au/record/413923/1
Debra :)
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He appears to be the son of Joseph WILKINSON and Rosetta JOLLY. born Staffordshire. Address on passenger list the same as the address on a census and birth registration - on Andrews Cards.
Cando
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Could this be his death reg....age about correct and as his age and place of death have been noted on the index there may be little more about him.
Death in NSW
24213/1961
WILKINSON Donald 57 years at Newport
District Chatswood
Transcriptions of certificates in NSW are available for c$20 from accredited transcription agents and a cheaper option than the certified cert. Info the same. Scroll down the page.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx
Cando
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The Death Notice in the SMH for Donald
Wilson WILKINSON 5.9.1961 states this chap was the son of Mr and Mrs Donald Wilson WILKINSON of Birmingham England
Cass, ( Sorry about incorrect spelling of surname) . looks like its time for new specs
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19610906&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
this fellow buried Mona Vale Cemetery, appears to be no marker on grave http://www.pittwater.nsw.gov.au/cemetery/home/deceased_search/search
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The Death Notice in the SMH for Donald Wilson 5.9.1961 states this chap was the son of Mr and Mrs Donald Wilson of Birmingham England
Cass
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19610906&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
this fellow buried Mona Vale Cemetery, appears to be no marker on grave http://www.pittwater.nsw.gov.au/cemetery/home/deceased_search/search
Well that eliminates that Donald WILKINSON and I checked the death notice and it is WILKINSON not WILSON.....just a typo Cass ;) Glad you found the notice.
I wonder if Donald Edward headed to NZ or Canada?
Cando
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No Donald Edward WILKINSON in New Zealand deaths, after 1920. There are Donald WILKINSONs, but none with a 1903 birth.
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Donald Edward was the youngest son of Joseph Wilkinson and Rosetta Jolly of Birmingham England (Staffordshire,Warwickshire) Joseph married sisters Margaret Jolly was my great grand died from complications in child birth The two oldest ran away to Canada as boys/men around 1904-05 They may not have known Donald
I have received some good tips and direction i will work away at this for a time I have found most have a contact or a relative when immigrating.
Thanks
for the help
Terry
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I wonder if Donald is mentioned in the distribution of his father estate.
1931
WILKINSON Joseph of 54 Petersfield-road Hall Green Birmingham died 21 Mar 1931 at Queens Hospital Birmingham
Administration Birmingham 22 April to Rosetta Wilkinson widow and Edith Maud Beck (wife of Oliver Edmonds Beck).
Effects £5193.7.6.
Cando
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it did not occur to me to purchase the will --again another place to look
thanks
terry
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Terry there is no Will. It appears he died intestate and Administrators were appointed to administer his estate....not executors. Hopefully his sons are mentioned in a possible distribution.
Cando
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i have looked at that probate a number of times and it did not register as no will. Edith Maud Beck is the oldest child of Joseph Wilkinson and his first wife Margaret Jolly. My grandfather the oldest male ran away at a young age . He was not in contact with his father or step again . I think the Step passed in 1938 i am sure she would provide for her youngest
Thanks for the help
Terry
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I ordered a copy of Donald Edward Wilkinson's mothers will . Rosetta signed the will 1935 and directs a portion to Donald . The young fellow was alive in 1935 ,unfortunatley it does not give an address
(She cut her sisters children out of her will ,I assume that's what step mothers are required to do ! )
Once the will has been dispersed is there a record where it went or is it assumed things were done as requested ?
regards
terry