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Title: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: Brittaya on Tuesday 30 August 16 17:04 BST (UK)
Hi lovely people,

I'm looking for any possible information on David Lockhart who married Lillian Emberly in Manitoba 19/02/1930. Lillian Mildred Emberly was born in 1909 and was adopted sometime between then and the 1911 census so I've hit a dead end there, but I do know that she married David in 1930, and that he died in 1965. What I don't know is when he was born or who his parents were. There were a couple David Lockhart births in the Manitoba Vital Stats, and I have no way of knowing which one is him. Would anyone be able to help? I can't afford to pay for ancestry right now or I would try there..

Thanks!
-Britt   
Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 30 August 16 19:26 BST (UK)
Hi,

The marriage took place in R.M. Rockwood. His obit says he was born in Greenwood, which
I think is incorrect, it should be Rockwood.

There is a birth Oct. 8, 1897 in R.M. Rockwood for David Lockhart, mother Joan Campbell.
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

I think this is the family in 1901 R.M. Rockwood, as transcribed.

Lockhart, James, 46, farmer
Lockhart, Joan, 45, wife
Lockhart, James, 17, son
Lockhart, Rankin, 15, daughter
Lockhart, Farlie, 13, son
Lockhart, Christina, 12, daughter
Lockhart, William, 8, son
Lockhart, Bithea, 6, daughter
Lockhart, David, 3, son
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=65946&highlight=41

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: Lisa in California on Tuesday 30 August 16 19:28 BST (UK)
According to the 1921 Selkirk, Manitoba census

Rockwood Municipality, image 11 of 22
Joane Lockhart, head, age 65, born Scotland, Farmer
David Lockhart, son, age 23, born Manitoba, Farmer

Rockwood Municipality, image 5 of 22
Living with adopted parents Allen and Mary:
Lillian Mildred Emberly, age 12, born Manitoba, parents born England

Since David was living in the same town as Lillian, could this David be a possibility?

Update:  above posted prior to reading DB's entry.  It appears that the family could be the correct one. Great find with the place of marriage, DB.   :)
Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 30 August 16 19:54 BST (UK)
For info. from familysearch

1906 c Manitoba
David with siblings , parents James & Johana
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHJG-PV3

1911c Manitoba
David with mother Joan & siblings
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV95-DZTB

EDIT - not sure if this James Lockhart & Joan are the same couple  :-\

1961 death John Campbell Lockhart parents named James & Joan CAMPBELL both born Scotland
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLR2-DHH

1952 death Robert Lockhart parents James & Joana CAMPBELL
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLR4-BMS

1881 (modified)Transcript Scotland
Toll House, Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland
James Lockhart   1855      Barr, Ayrshire, Scotland   occ. Road Surfaceman
Joan                           1856      New Cumnock, Ayrshire, Scotland   
Robert              1878      Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland   
John                      1880      Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland   



Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: Brittaya on Tuesday 30 August 16 20:25 BST (UK)
Fantastic! You are all awesome, thank you.

 I had assumed that the 1897 David Lockhart was the correct one, but I was hoping to find his obituary or something to confirm that he's the same one who died in 1965, is anyone able to find that? If I could just confirm the year he died I'd know for certain that it's him. I'm pretty sure already though. If not, oh well. Also way to go on the death record of his brothers! Thank you so much for sharing that, I hadn't seen it yet!

Britt
Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: dbree on Tuesday 30 August 16 21:20 BST (UK)
Hi,

Winnipeg Free Press, March 12, 1965

"On March 10, 1965, at the family residence Stonewall, David Lockhart age 67. Born Greenwood, ??? Manitoba. Mr. Lockhart had farmed and lived in Balmoral and Stonewall District all his life. Funeral March 13 at 2PM, Interment Victoria Cemetery. Besides his wife Lillian, he is survived by 5 sons*, 6 daughters*, and 3 sisters Mrs. B. Inman, Mrs. W. Rankin, and Mrs. G. Mulholland."

* not named in case they are still living.

PM me your email address if you would like a copy.

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: dbree on Wednesday 31 August 16 00:35 BST (UK)
Hi,

Thanks Lisa  :)

1891 Canadian Census Rockwood, as transcribed
Lockheart, James age 37 b. Scotland, farmer
Lockheart, Joanne age 35. b. Scotland
Lockheart, Robert age 13, b. Scotland
Lockheart, John age 11, b. Scotland
Lockheart, James age 8, b. Manitoba
Lockheart, Rankine age 6, b. Manitoba
Lockheart, Fairlie age 4, b. Manitoba
Lockheart, Christine age 2, b. Manitoba
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=img&id=30953_148095-00066

Sometime between John b. 1880ish and James b. 1883ish , they emigrated to Canada.

I think Ladyhawk :) meant the 1881 Scotland census.

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: dbree on Wednesday 31 August 16 00:43 BST (UK)
Hi,

I think David served in WW1, here are his attestation papers, gives NOK as mother Joan.
A very odd signature for David. ??? And oh so slow to load. :P
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=534747

Library and Archives Canada are in the process of digitizing WW1 service files whereby you can
see the complete service file for free. At the moment they are on the letter L, so hopefully not
too long before David's becomes available.

Cheers,
DB
Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: dbree on Wednesday 31 August 16 03:18 BST (UK)
Hi,

I think that there is more than one error in David's obituary. Sister "Mrs. W. Rankin" is actually
Mrs. W. Hepburn. Rankin C. Lockhart married W. (William James) Hepburn in 1908 Stonewall, Manitoba.
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

1916 Canadian Census, Saltcoats, Melville, Saskatchewan
Hepburn, William James 36, b. Ontario
Hepburn, Rankin age 29, b. Manitoba
Hepburn, Melville, age 7 (hmm...wonder where they got that name from  ;D) b. Sask.
Hepburn, Elmer age 5, b. Sask.
Hepburn, Gladys age 3, b. Sask.
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21944/jpg/31228_4363973-00223.jpg

Cheers,
DB


Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 31 August 16 06:04 BST (UK)

I think Ladyhawk :) meant the 1881 Scotland census.

I did  ::) have modified by post  ;)

This might be James Lockhart born c1855 Barr from 1881c with his parents and siblings
on 1861 c

Water of Minnock Rowantra Poll, Barr, Ayrshire, Scotland
Robert   Lockhart   37   1824   Stewarton, Ayrshire occ. Gamekeeper   
Bettsie   Lockhart   31   1830   Kilmaurs, Ayrshire
James   Lockhart   7   1854   Barr, Ayrshire
Robert   Lockhart   6   1855   Barr, Ayrshire
Tairley D   Lockhart   4   1857   Barr, Ayrshire
William   Lockhart   4   1857   Barr, Ayrshire
David   Lockhart   2   1859   Barr, Ayrshire

1849 marriage https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTRW-N65

ch Robert parents Robert Lockhart & Bethia DINNING
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY1R-XX3
Ch Fairla Dinning Lockhart
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY1R-XX5

Didn't spot one for James on familysearch but there are others with parents
named Robert LOCKHART & Bethia DINNING

James doesn't appear to be living at home 1871c

Taglaney, Rowantree Road, Barr, Ayrshire,
Robert   Lockhart   1826   Ayrshire occ Gamekeeper
Bethia   Lockhart   1830   Kilmaurs, Ayrshire
Robert   Lockhart   1856   Barr, Ayrshire
William   Lockhart   1858   Barr, Ayrshire
David   Lockhart   1860   Barr, Ayrshire
Andrew C   Lockhart   1863   Barr, Ayrshire
Christina   Lockhart   1864   Barr, Ayrshire
Mungo R   Lockhart   1867   Barr, Ayrshire
it would appear Mungo's middle name is Parker
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KM2Z-LBZ
and Mungo's son married in Canada
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMF6-PSW

This might be James LOCKART born 1854 Barr occ Gen Servt.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBR7-311

Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: Brittaya on Wednesday 31 August 16 14:58 BST (UK)
This is amazing, you are all the best, thank you so much!
Title: Re: David Lockhart & Lillian Emberly Any info?
Post by: Priscilla on Wednesday 31 August 16 16:15 BST (UK)
In case you haven't seen this ...

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lockhart&GSfn=archibald&GSmn=dinning&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=111519883&df=all&

ADDED: ... and this ...

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=lockhart&GSfn=john&GSmn=campbell&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=137023499&df=all&