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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: Shaw Clingan on Monday 29 August 16 15:20 BST (UK)
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Looking for James Beattie, born 1866 in Irvine Ayr, Scotland. Do not know parents name.
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Only one I can find;
1881 Census
Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland
James Beattie, 44, Head, Mar, Labourer (chemical) born Ireland
Elizabeth Beattie, 45, Wife, Mar, born Ireland
JAMES, Beattie, 15, Son, Servant, born Irvine, Ayrshire*****
Catherine Beattie, 10
Mary Ann Beattie, 12
Matthew Beattie, 7
William Beattie, 5
All Children born Irvine
Trish :)
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1871 the Children seem to be mistranscribed;
James Beattie, 33, Ireland
Elizabeth Beattie, 40, Ireland
John Beattie, 12, Ireland
David Beattie, 10, Ireland
Sarah Beattie, 8, born Balby, Ayrshire
Agnes Beattie, 6, Son, born Irvine**** likely James
Mary Ann Beattie, 3, born Irvine
Roberine Beattie 11 Mo, born Irvine (Catherine?)
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Would this be his marriage?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRT3-3SM
and birth:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYBK-V7F
Maureen
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Was just about to post that Maureen :)
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;D ;D ;)
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MARRIAGE;
James Beattie
Elizabeth Vaughan
Marriage: 1858
Marriage Place: Presbyterian Church, Killyleagh, County Down, Northern Ireland
(on Anc Extracted Irish Records)
Trish :)
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They may have gone back and forwards to Ireland.
1861 Lodging in Dalry we have;
James Beattie, 24
Eliza Beattie, 27
William John Beattie, 1
1891 in Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland we have;
James Beattie, 57
Elizabeth Beattie , 60
Mary Ann Beattie, 22
Catherine Beattie, 20
Matthew Beattie, 18
William Beattie, 16
Children born Irvine, Ayrshire
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This is confusing because one says born Ireland and one Scotland. Why would it show two places.
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They may have gone back and forwards to Ireland.
1861 Lodging in Dalry we have;
James Beattie, 24
Eliza Beattie, 27
William John Beattie, 1
1891 in Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland we have;
James Beattie, 57
Elizabeth Beattie , 60
Mary Ann Beattie, 22
Catherine Beattie, 20
Matthew Beattie, 18
William Beattie, 16
Children born Irvine, Ayrshire
Was going to suggest the Balby as place of birth in previous post could be mistranscription of Dalry.
There can be placed of birth differences because people can be vague and some enumerators are more thorough than others.
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Would there be any death notices for James Beattie and his wife Elizabeth.
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Name: James Beattie Jr.
Age in 1910: 44
Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Scotland
Home in 1910: Elderon, Marathon, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Sarah Beattie
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: England
This I found in united states census. I can't figure out why james Jr was born in Scotland 1866 and he says his father was from Ireland and mother from England. Can anyone help on this.
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He may not have know where his parents were born or someone else may have given the information. Later census records that appear to be the same guy have different birthplaces given for his parents.
1905 Wisconsin state census - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM3K-QWK
1920 census - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF2W-L6D
This may be his burial and gravestone: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=106480010&ref=acom
A possible entry on a naturalization index for him here - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Naturalization/Bae/Be.htm
There is a Jim Beatty mentioned in a book called Tales of Old Elderon by Allard Peterson, c. 1984 which is a collection of stories typewritten by a resident of Elderon, Marathon County, Wisconsin http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wimarath/ElderonIndex.htm
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Family member said James died at Paisley 1906 and Elizabeth at Westmarch Paisley 1901
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Daughter of couple Mary Ann married a Reid
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See also thread on DOWN board-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754963.0
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There are a number of online trees on a/try for this line such as here http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/43807489/person/12708108862/facts
They have these details in respect of James Snr's death:
James Beattie, Age 65, Male, DOD 02/03/1906 (UK Dating format), Place of Death 24 Springbank Road, Paisley, Scotland, Cert. #5461, Lair #248, Compt. #35
There is a likely corresponding death entry on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk which would let you verify that this is the correct entry for him. Lots of details on Scottish death certs to let you confirm it is the right James Beattie.
For wife Elizabeth, there is also this ref:
Elizabeth Beattie, Age 69, Female, DOD 13/03/1901, Place of Death 2 Westmarch, Paisley, Scotland, Cert. #5461, Lair #240, Compt. #35
There is a possible 1901 death entry on the index for SP, for a 67 year old Elizabeth Beattie who died in Paisley that year. There is no additonal surname included on the index to help further so you would need to view the original image online.
Monica :)
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Daughter of couple Mary Ann married a Reid
From the tree I linked above are details of sister Mary Ann who married a John Day Reid. This entry is given for them from 1901:
John Reid 22 iron moulder b. Edinburgh
Mary Reid 26 b. Irvine
John Reid 16 Months b. Paisley
Address 2 Westmarch St, Paisley
At the same address in 1901 is likely entry for James Snr:
James Beattie 66 coal miner b. Ireland
The young Reid couple look to have also moved to the US around 1906, where Mary Ann died in Wisconsin sometime after 1940.
Monica
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Wisconsin features heavily for various members of the Beattie family.
A number of trees have eldest son/brother John's death details as showing here:
www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=BEA&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=24&GScntry=4&GSsr=7041&GRid=84910345&
However, can't see a match to parents James and Elizabeth from that obit there...including the fact that he was John W(illiam) not John C...
Monica
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Thank you everyone for your help