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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: BlueFire on Thursday 25 August 16 03:37 BST (UK)
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Hi
I have suspicions an ancestor is a convict, but apart from having the same name, no documents to "prove" the convict and person are the same. I found an article in Trove that related to Municipal Court in the Bendigo area. Would Public Records have anything from that day in court, that would mention if he was transported to Australia? He was a free man at the time and was not convicted of anything.
He got married after he was free, so no permission to marry documents. He was married in South Australia and the info from SA web site, has very little on the marriage.
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If you were to provide his name and details perhaps there's a number of RChatters on the Australia board who would help your quest.
JM
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The convict in question is Peter Farrell. Arrived on the "Clyde" 1832. I have found the convict info and certificate of freedom.
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Have you asked a moderator to move your thread to the Australia Board?
JM
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December 1837 NSW Muster
Peter FARRELL, 21, convicted Liverpool Lancs
Arrived per Clyde 1832
At L Myles, Brisbane Waters (this is in the Gosford area, central coast NSW, just north of Sydney)
CofF 25 Sept 1838.
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/convicts-index
JM
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http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/87945395 Bendigo Advertiser 26 July 1860
Peter FARRELL and his wife, Rosanna ........... The Police Magistrate remarked that he had known Farrell for some time as a respectable man
Quite possible there were several chaps with that name in the colonies.
JM
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTDN-RNL
perhaps that transcription of a parish register matches up to the following indexed NSW BDM Early Church Record 1851, Line 54 Volume 118
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx
JM
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He was married in South Australia and the info from SA web site, has very little on the marriage
This is the Marriage in SA:
Peter FARRELL. FL, single m. Rose Anna MACEVER. 19, single 13/07/1849 Catholic Church Adelaide, Adelaide. #8/138
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Peter FARRELL, born 9 Feb 1850, parents as Peter Farrell and Ann Mcever, The Murray/Burra district Ref 6/83
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Sadly, Peter FARRELL, 13 months died 26 March 1851 Adelaide Ref 2/81
Back in 1844 and 1845, there’s a Peter FARRELL as a Pulling Hand on Whaling Ships out of Adelaide. (Sth Australian Government Gazette)
JM
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There were other children born to them in Victoria who died as infants also.
The OP needs to clarify how they are connected to above marriage then perhaps we could help further.
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Perhaps this is the death of Peter FARRELL in Victoria. If so, he is buried at White Hills cemetery where some of his children are also buried.
Peter FARRELL 55yrs born DUBLIN d. 1872 #2778
Father: Peter
Mother: Lucinda not known
White Hills Cemetery:
http://rpcv.com.au/deceased-search/
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The convict in question is Peter Farrell. Arrived on the "Clyde" 1832.
http://members.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/cgi-bin/irish/irish.cgi?requestType=Search2&id=9515
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Clyde 1 arriving Sydney 27 August 1832
Peter FARROLL (notice the spelling)
Age 19
Read & Write
Roman Catholic,
Single,
Native of Dublin
Cutler’s Boy
Stealing cheeses and shawl,
Liverpool Qtr Sessions,
7 years
(Indents)
JM
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What I'm after is a way to find out if Peter Farrell, married to Rosanna McIvor, is the same person who arrived on the Clyde. His death cert has him in Australia for 41 years. I know that info on death certs is not always accurate, so that would have him arriving in Australia around 1831. The spelling of his name was corrected in other documents. Peter Farroll arriving on the Clyde is identified later as Peter Farrell. There is also discrepancy with his age.
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Do you have samples of his handwriting to compare with his signature on SA marriage cert?
I am finding quite a few "Peter FARRELL" chaps in the various colonies. I provided the alternative spelling so that others with other resources may find it useful. :)
JM
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I didn't purchase the SA wedding cert, as there did not seem to be any information on it, from the "preview". I looked at what was on wedding certs of that era and they did not provide the details that later certificates did. Its 1868 before they put the father on and 1937 before they put the mothers maiden name on. His father is Peter Farrell and Lucinda for the mother, I'm not sure if that helps as far as finding out if he was transported. Birth place listed as Dublin on death cert and the certificate of freedom has Dublin too, which is why I'm thinking it could be him.
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Do you have any samples of his own handwriting?
JM
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No. I don't have any hand writing samples.