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Title: Coal Mining Database
Post by: smiffy13 on Wednesday 24 August 16 20:49 BST (UK)
Anyone know what's happened to the coal mining database that was on www.cmhrc.co.uk

It used to be one of my go-to sites for all sorts of info.  I haven't needed to use it for a while & now I can't find it.

I know Raleys Solicitors hosted it a while back, but it looks like they are in administration.  I really hope this data has survived somewhere.  Anyone know?
Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: The Yokel on Wednesday 24 August 16 21:13 BST (UK)
Is this it

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmhrc/lom45.htm
Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: smiffy13 on Thursday 25 August 16 18:49 BST (UK)
there used to be a database listing people killed or seriously injured in mining accidents, searchable by person or colliery.  I think it was part of the coal mining database originally set up by Ian Winstanley but the names/details seem to have been removed when it got transferred from its original host.

I'm looking at the Durham database http://www.dmm.org.uk  but I don't think its the same one I remember.  I'm interested in Lancashire mines (Wigan/Leigh) at the moment.
Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: ScouseBoy on Thursday 25 August 16 18:53 BST (UK)
IF  Wigan Council  have a records and archives office  with web site  it could well  be on there,   but I am only taking an educated  guess.

If you cannot find it online,   then you may find that  Wigan Archives  have it deposited with them.

It may be available as a book.
Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 25 August 16 19:57 BST (UK)
I think the one that you need was on a blueyonder site - got info about a few of my ancestors deaths from there. Can't find it at the moment -will have a more detailed look.  I'm sure there are links to it on Rootschat cos a few of us used it.

Gadget
Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 25 August 16 19:58 BST (UK)
Here it is/was:

http://www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/deaths.htm

Shanko
 ;D

Added - I think it's moved  :-[  Ancestry seem to have it!

Link - http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=9735
Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: smiffy13 on Friday 26 August 16 22:56 BST (UK)
thank you. that's the one :) 

the ancestry blurb still directs you to the blueyonder website, which is unavailable.

I found the info I was after though, so its all good :)

Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: sallyyorks on Saturday 27 August 16 10:37 BST (UK)

Added - I think it's moved  :-[  Ancestry seem to have it!

Link - http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=9735

I think you are right gadget, :(
cmhrc was a great site, what a shame

Just looked on the new Ancestry one for a relative who was on the original cmhrc site. The record is not there now on Ancestry
Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: spendlove on Saturday 27 August 16 12:21 BST (UK)
Hi

This site was sponsored by Rayley's solicitors of Barnsley.   They appear to have gone into administration March 2016.

 Google search will provide info about Rayley's

Waybach machine gives limited access.

Spendlove

Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 28 August 16 10:03 BST (UK)

Just looked on the new Ancestry one for a relative who was on the original cmhrc site. The record is not there now on Ancestry

Same with my relatives, although, as a test,  I did do some searches for time periods without names and quite a long list came up. Not sure which areas are covered - I noticed that there were some from the Wrexham area but not for the adjacent pits in the Shropshire coalfield  :-\

Gadget
Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: sallyyorks on Saturday 01 October 16 02:45 BST (UK)

Just looked on the new Ancestry one for a relative who was on the original cmhrc site. The record is not there now on Ancestry

Same with my relatives, although, as a test,  I did do some searches for time periods without names and quite a long list came up. Not sure which areas are covered - I noticed that there were some from the Wrexham area but not for the adjacent pits in the Shropshire coalfield  :-\

Gadget

 :(
I have just noticed another one not on the http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=9735
but it used to be on the cmhrc site.

What makes it even more irritating is that Ancestry.com even have the cheek to link cmhrc in each record, but when you click on it the cmhrc site no longer exists, as they well know.
Title: Re: Coal Mining Database
Post by: barryd on Saturday 01 October 16 04:11 BST (UK)
Durham Mining Museum may not be relevant to your question but it does have a large database of other sites that may be relevant.