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I'm try to find my gggrandfather Samuel Todd, father of John and William Alexander Todd. John was married to Elizabeth McCammond in 1883 in Belfast and William Alexander married Catherine Cowan in 1879 in Belfast. On both marriage certificates Samuel is a witness and is recorded as a merchant and manufacturer respectively. John was born in 1846 so I'm guessing Samuel would be about 1820.
All the best!
Sheddie
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Marriage certificates do not usually indicate the relationship to the couple so "Samuel Todd" may not be the father.
Administration of the Estate of William Alexander Todd late of Dundela Villas Strandtown Belfast Merchant who died 13 March 1915 granted at Belfast to Kathleen Houston Married Woman.
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Going forward a bit in order to work back...
1877 directory- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1877tuvwyz.htm
Todd, Wm. A., room paper warehouse, 24 Victoria Street
1880 directory- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1880tuvwyz.htm
Todd, Wm. A., room paper warehouse, 24 Victoria Street, res., 111 Elgin Terrace (See Advertisement)
1901 directory- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1901TUV.htm
Todd, Wm. A., paper hanger and wall decorator, cabinet maker, upholsterer, carpet importer and artistic house furnisher, 20 to 26 Victoria Street; workshops, 16 Hill Street; res., Dundela Villas, Dundela Avenue, Strandtown
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Victoria/Dundella_Avenue/1221930
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Dundela_Avenue/230370
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If the above William Alexander Todd is the correct one then this Samuel Todd can be eliminated- son William died before 1903. www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Eia_Street/961523
Probate of the Will of Samuel Todd late of 20 Eia-street Belfast Bookbinder who died 24 July 1903 granted at Belfast to James Todd Fitter. Will mentions son James, widow of late son William, daughter Isabella Gray, daughters Robina and Margaret.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Clifton/Eia_Street/145224
Administration (with the Will) of the Personal Estate of Robina Lush Todd late of Eia Street Belfast Spinster who died 9 February 1922 granted at Belfast to James Wood Todd Artizan (Committee of Margaret Ellen Todd Sole Executrix) Effects £864 0s. 4d.
Todd Margaret Allen of 20 Eia Street Belfast and of Purdysburn Mental Hospital county Down spinster died 6 May 1927 at latter place Probate Belfast 6 July to Norman Graham M.D. Effects £800 5s. 10d.
The Will of William Charles Armstrong Todd late of Belfast Commission Agent who died 11 April 1893 at same place was proved at Belfast by Mary Josephine Todd of Eia-street Belfast Widow the sole Executrix.
Of course your Samuel Todd may not even have lived in Belfast.
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Is this your John Todd? both census records list his birthplace as Co. Down
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Duncairn_Ward/Somerton_Road/1005054
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Somerton_Road/143055
Letters of Administration of Ernest Victor Todd late of Clarinda, Fortwilliam Park, Belfast, private 3rd Wellington Infantry Regiment New Zealand Expeditionary Force, who died 4 October 1917 granted at Belfast to John Todd, Clarinda, Fortwilliam Park, Belfast, justice of the peace. Effects: £349 0s 0d.
Added- baptismal register confirms that parents are John Todd & Elizabeth McCammond so the above is your John Todd.
http://www.fmpci.com/fortwilliam-park/baptismal-register
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Many thanks aghadowey. All comments are correct. John was the manager of gibsons jewellery shop in Belfast and William Alexander owned the house refurbishment business in Victoria street. Elizabeth McCammond was the daughter of William McCammond mayor of Belfast in 1895-6.
Samuel remains a mystery. I'd love to find proof he was the bookbinder or the manager of grimshaws wine merchants but I haven't so far.
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According to census records William Alexander Todd was born co. Antrim and brother John Todd in co. Down but that could just mean Belfast area.
John Todd, wife (seems to have died in Cork) and son buried Belfast City Cemetery.
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6185.49461
Still looking for their father Samuel...
Added- Samuel Todd the bookbinder had middle name of Bishop-
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6435.21960
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Thanks for the cemetery links. Bishop is interesting though I've not found it elsewhere in the family. John Todds wife died in 1951 in Upper Cresent Belfast. She had lived in Donaghadee for many years before that.
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John Todd's wife died in Cork according to Cemetery record-
"Model Farm Road Cork Eire 70 Somerton Rd Belfast"
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6659.14104
Still searching for leads on Samuel Todd...
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Cheers aghadowey
That Elizabeth Todd was John's daughter. She had health problems and died at 51.
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An Elizabeth Anne Todd married Robert Dunwoody in Belfast on 16 November 1871, her father Samuel was a 'manufacturer' and a William Alexander Todd was a witness, here was the family in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Victoria/Belmont_Church_Road/1221641/
And 1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Holywood_Road/230733/
An Eliza Anne Todd was baptised on 29 September 1848 in St. Anne's Church of Ireland Belfast, the parents were Samuel Todd and Elizabeth Stewart, just a speculative punt to note.
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Don't know yet if or how this fits in, but have a look at the following will on the PRONI website to see what you think (the image is digitised for viewing), it brings together the names Stewart, Todd and Dunwoody, it sounds potentially promising with mention of Samuel and Eliza Todd etc. etc.:
The Will of Jane Stewart late of Ballymullen County Down Widow deceased who died 10 February 1874 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oaths of Christopher Todd Warehouseman and Robert Dunwoody Commercial Traveller both of Belfast the Executors.
There are 3 Christopher Todd entries in the PRONI Will Calendars, all worth considering. The administration case for Christopher Todd who died in 1905 is interesting because of the mention of 'William Leck Todd' - when John Todd married Elizabeth McCammond in 1883, one of the witnesses was a 'William Lackie Todd'.
Here they are in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Trinity_Street/934890/
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Belfast Newsletter, Saturday 17 March 1877:
TODD - March 16, at her son's residence, 28, Regent Street, Belfast, Eliza, relict of the late Samuel Todd. Her remains will be removed from above address for interment in Drumbo Burying-ground, this day (Saturday), at twelve o'clock noon. Friends will please accept this intimation.
Belfast 1877 street directory entry for Regent Street: 28 Todd, Samuel, manager for Grimshaw, Bros.,
Castle St.
Eliza Todd's death record shows that she was the 'widow of a manufacturer' with a reported age of 67, present at death at 28 Regent Street was one Christopher Todd.
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The will of Jane Stewart who died in 1874 (mentioned at reply #11 above) included reference to the 'late Samuel Todd'. The following marriage notice from the Belfast Weekly News of Saturday 18 November 1871 for the previously mentioned Dunwoody-Todd marriage brings Samuel's death further back in time:
DUNWOODY-TODD-Nov. 16, at Duncairn Presbyterian Church, Belfast, by the Rev. T.Y. Killen, Mr. Robert Dunwoody, to Lizzie Anne, daughter of the late Mr. Samuel Todd, Belfast
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The Will of Jane Stewart late of Ballymullen County Down Widow deceased who died 10 February 1874 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oaths of Christopher Todd Warehouseman and Robert Dunwoody Commercial Traveller both of Belfast the Executors.
I can't find this death on GRONI online, however there is the following reference on Ros Davies' County Down website in which the month of Jane's death is out, but is worth noting for now anyway:
Thomas Stewart | Lambeg/Drumbeg | died 1 Jan 1870 aged 74; husband of Jane who d. 10 Mar 1874 aged 70; uncle of G. Todd; buried Hillhall Presbyterian graveyard
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/S/StewartKW.htm
Then there are the following inscriptions in Hillhall Presbyterian graveyard, the first matches another of the 3 Christopher Todd PRONI Will Calendars entries:
Erected by C Todd in memory of his wife Isabella Todd who departed this life 16th June 1916 aged 74 years, His brother Robert who died 15th August 1864 aged 15 years, His mother Eliza Todd died 23rd March 1895 aged 84 years, His father William Todd died 9th February 1900 aged 89 years, Also the above named Christopher Todd died 17th February 1928 aged 87 years.
Presumably this was Christopher and Isabella in 1901/1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Blaris/Ballymullan/1239479/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Blaris/Ballymullen/248614/
And this inscription, I'm wondering, could it be C Todd rather than G Todd?
Erected by G TODD in memory of his uncle Thomas Stewart died 1st Jan, 1870 aged 74 years, Also his beloved wife Jane Stewart, died 10th Mar, 1874 aged 70 years.
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A Christopher Todd married an Isabella McGowan in Hillhall Presbyterian Church on 8 October 1864, he was a 23 year old clerk and his father was William Todd, a farmer (note the nephew William McGowan in the 1911 census return for house 39 in Ballymullen).
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In a hurry but wanted to post a few bits I found yesterday (hope to have more time later for more searching and checking).
Directories
1852 http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/1852names4.htm
Todd, Samuel, book binder, 2 Cullingtree Pl
Todd, Samuel, smith, 1 Boundary St
Todd, Samuel, spirit and ale stores, 34 Rosemary St
Todd, Samuel, grocer, flax and tow merchant, Edward St & 37 Great Patrick St
1861- none
1868- http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1877tuvwyz.htm
Todd, S., book binder, 18 Skipper Street, residence, 32 Townsend Street
Todd, Samuel, dealer, 74 Hillview Street
Todd, Samuel, manager for Grimshaw Bros., Castle Street, 28 Regent Street
Todd, Samuel, flax dresser, 3 Cornwall Street
Todd, Saml., baker, 26 & 28 Bridge End
Belfast News Letter, 17 Jan.1859: January 10, at 71, Academy Street, Belfast, Samuel Todd, aged 59 years.
1852 directory- 71, 73 Academy St. Pat. Coleman, spirit merchant next- [Little Edward Street]
Belfast News Letter, 2 Sept.1862 marriage of William Miller, merchant, Liverpool to Sarah Jane Todd, dau. of late Samuel Todd, ESQ of Belfast
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... Belfast News Letter, 17 Jan.1859: January 10, at 71, Academy Street, Belfast, Samuel Todd, aged 59 years ...
That one is interesting, for there are susbsequent street directory references like this one in 1863:
Todd, Christopher, sewed-muslin manufacturer, 71 Academy Street
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Good morning Gaffy
Many thanks for all the info. So many leads to chase up. The one which catches my eye is the first "Elizabeth Anne Todd married Robert Dunwoody in Belfast on 16 November 1871, her father Samuel was a 'manufacturer' and a William Alexander Todd was a witness, here was the family in 1901". This is very interesting. Can you tell me where I might see this record?
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The marriage certificate is viewable on GRONI's website- you just need to register then purchase a few credits to see the scanned image right away :)
Now, this Christopher Todd-
Todd Christopher of Ballymullan county Down farmer died 11 May 1940 at Lisburn Infirmary Lisburn county Antrim Probate Belfast 8 August to Edward Thomas Fullerton farmer. Effects £443 4s. 9d.
Old Age Pension Claim from 1851 census-
TODD Agnes Samuel TODD Margaret TODD Clogher Drumbo Castlereagh Upper Down 1921 - Mr Christopher Todd, Woodview, Mallymullen, Lisburn, Down. 1851 Samuel and Margaret (died 1849) Todd married 1837, Sarah Jane 13, James 11, Samuel 9, Agnes 5.
http://www.ireland-genealogy.com/view_category/Page-398.html
So, Samuel Todd m.(1837) Margaret (d.1849)
1. Sarah Jane Todd (c1838) is this the Sarah Jane Todd, dau. of late Samuel, who married 1862 in Liverpool to William Miller?
2. James Todd (c1840)
3. Samuel Todd (c1842) m.(1864) Isabella McGowan. Note a sister married Warnock
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Blaris/Ballymullan/1239479
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Blaris/Ballymullen/248614
4. Agnes Todd (c1846-aft.1921)
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Thanks aghadowey
I found the marriage cert on groni. The signature of William Alexander Todd , while not identical is very close to that on his own marriage cert.
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Gaffy, I'm still trying to get my head around all the brilliant info you've posted.
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I have found a LOT of information about some of the Todds but need a bit of time to make sense of it then type it out so you'll understand it ;)
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Sounds great aghadowey
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The death record of Eliza Todd wife of late Samuel Todd manager of Grimshaw's is very hopefull.
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The death record of Eliza Todd wife of late Samuel Todd manager of Grimshaw's is very hopefull.
The Belfast Newsletter describing 28 Regent Street as her son's residence and the presence of a Christopher Todd at her death, together with some of the other context posted (eg. Jane Stewart's 1874 will), is suggestive of the possibility that Christopher Todd may have been another son and sibling of John, William Alexander and Elizabeth Anne. Hopefully someone will find something more conclusive to rule this in or define the relationship correctly.
Talking of Elizabeth Anne and as just an aside, husband Robert Dunwoody went on to become a locally renowned Belfast citizen, building up his tea business and becoming a Justice of the Peace (which is what 'Instire of the Peacly' meant in the 1901 census return, lol). He and Eliza Ann (Todd) Dunwoody were buried as follows:
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=125790214
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ib5/
Here's a 1927 obituary: By the death of Mr. Robert Dunwoody, J.P., which took place at his residence, 92, Holywood Road, Strandtown, there passed away a gentleman who some years ago took a prominent part in the public affairs of the city. A native of County Monaghan, Mr Dunwoody came to Belfast in his early life, and became eventually a well-known figure in the business life of the city and province as head for many years of the firm of wholesale tea merchants which carried on trade under the style of Messrs. R. Dunwoody & Co., Victoria Street. The deceased was one of the founders of the Belfast Grocers' Association, and was also done the honour of appointment to the presidency of the Grocers' Federation of the United Kingdom in 1891. He was appointed a magistrate for the city in 1909. The late Mr. Dunwoody, who sat regularly on the bench in the local police courts, was one of a deputation consisting of the late Sir Daniel Dixon, the late Sir Samuel Black, Mr. Payne, J.P., which interviewed the then Chief Secretary, Mr George Wyndham, at Dublin Castle in reference to the unsatisfactory position of the two resident magistrates in Belfast as compared with that of the gentlemen who occupied similar positions in Dublin. Although there was some delay an Act of Parliament was subsequently passed which placed these gentlemen on the desired footing. Mr Dunwoody, who went to reside in England for a lengthened period in his later life, spoke on platforms across the water and at home in furtherance of the Unionist cause. For the last few years he had been living in retirement in Belfast.
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Getting to the bottom of the various Christopher Todds may open up leads, starting with the 3 in the PRONI Will Calendars Index.
1. The Christopher Todd who died on 17 December 1928 was the one I posted at replies #14 and #15 who married Isobella McGowan in 1864, then a Margaret Elizabeth Harvey in 1917 (she also has an entry in the PRONI Will Calendars Index). This Christopher's parents were William (a farmer) and Eliza Todd and his birth based on census information and death record reported age was c. 1842-44.
2. The second Christopher Todd who died on 11 May 1940 had a reported death age of 60 and was possibly the one born on 2 December 1881 as the son of Robert and Agnes Todd:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Blaris/Ballymullan/1239468/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Blaris/Ballymullen/248586/
Bachelor Robert Todd, a farmer living in Ballymullan (Blaris civil parish) married spinster Agnes Todd living in nearby Clogher (Hillsborough civil parish) on 15 March 1870, his father was called Christopher Todd, a farmer (yet another Christopher Todd), hers was Samuel Todd, a farmer.
3. The third Christopher Todd who died on 7 May 1905 is one I've yet found little about, or indeed about his brother William Leck Todd, other than the 1901 census return I posted at reply #11, but his brother William was still with the Pedlows in 1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Limestone_Road/141442/
And William's Wills Calendar index entry doesn't provide any obvious leads:
Todd William Leck of 75 Limestone Road Belfast retired warehouseman died 25 April 1932 Probate Belfast 17 June to Philip Brady cashier. Effects £607 0s. 3d.
Again based on census and death record reported age, this Christopher Todd was born c. 1835-36 and his brother William Leck Todd was born c. 1851-52.
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Fascinating stuff
And another tea merchant! My ggrandfather was also a tea merchant 43 Victoria street named Abrham Sinclair.
It'll be great if we can tie it all together
Many thanks
Now just read second post #26
Lots of detail I'll have to cogitate... It's my age, things sink in slowly
Brill
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BTW, at reply #11 I mentioned that one of the witnesses to the 1883 marriage of John Todd and Elizabeth McCammond was a 'William Lackie Todd'.
I can now revise that and confirm that it said 'William Leck Todd' - that is a very singular name and this confirmation ups the credentials considerably on the William Leck Todd and his brother Christopher Todd boarding at 9 Trinity Street in 1901.
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A nice person from NIFHS kindly checked out this on the registers and transcribed it as Leck. For several years I took that as read despite the fact that I've never heard of the name before. Then one day I wondered if it could be Lex as that is how William Alexander was known to his family. Since then I've taken it a Lex at least until you came up with Leck Todds !
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Some of this I typed earlier and will overlap what gaffy has recently posted.
Starting with this Christopher Todd-
Christopher Todd (c1835 Co.Down-7 May 1905)
1890 directory: 16 Alfred St. Masonic Lodge No.10 Christopher Todd, house steward
The Will of William M'Murray late of Hill Hall County Down Farmer who died 25 December 1890 at same place was proved at Belfast by Henry Hunter of No. 44 Duncairn Gardens Antrim road Belfast Builder and Christopher Todd of No. 16 Alfred-street Belfast Mercantile Clerk the Executors.
1901- boarder Christopher Todd, 65, Co.Down, commercial clerk, not married. Also Wm L Todd - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Trinity_Street/934890/.
Belfast Newsletter, 8 May 1905: TODD- May 7, at his residence, 9, Trinity Street, Belfast, Funeral private. No flowers. W.L. Todd.Christopher Todd
Administration (with the Will) of the estate of Christopher Todd late of 9 Trinity-street Belfast Clerk who died 7 May 1905 granted at Belfast to William Leck Todd Warehouseman.
William Leck Todd (c1851 Co.Antrim-25 Apr.1932)
"when John Todd married Elizabeth McCammond in 1883, one of the witnesses was a 'William Lackie Todd'."
1901- boarder Wm L Todd, 49, Co,Antrim, clerk to druggist, not married. Also Christopher Todd. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Trinity_Street/934890/
1911- boarder- retired embr. linen trade. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Limestone_Road/141442/
Todd William Leck of 75 Limestone Road Belfast retired warehouseman died 25 April 1932 Probate Belfast 17 June to Philip Brady cashier. Effects £607 0s. 3d.
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William Todd (c1811-9 Feb.1900), farmer, m. Eliza (c1814-23 Mar.1895)
Erected by C Todd in memory of his wife Isabella Todd who departed this life 16th June 1916 aged 74 years, His brother Robert who died 15th August 1864 aged 15 years, His mother Eliza Todd died 23rd March 1895 aged 84 years, His father William Todd died 9th February 1900 aged 89 years, Also the above named Christopher Todd died 17th February 1928 aged 87 years.
1. Jane Todd (d.31 Jan.1901 Kroonstad, Orange River, South Africa) m. Rev. William James Warnock (c1863-28 Nov.1900 Kroonstad, Orange River, South Africa).
Administration for both estates granted at Dublin to Christopher Todd, farmer.
The tenth minister called was Rev. William James Warnock of Stewartstown. He was installed here on 14th May 1891 but had to resign for health reasons in 1899. He went to live in South Africa where he died aged 37 years on 28th November 1900. http://lisburn.com/churches/Lisburn-churches/drumbo-presbyterian-church.html
1. Isabella Todd “Ella” Warnock m.(12 Sept.1917 Drumbo Presbyterian Church) Dr. (Major) Campbell McNeill McCormack (c1884-22 Sept.1918)- see next post
2. James Bryars/Bryans Warnock
3. John Thomas Russell Todd
2. Christopher Todd (c1841-17 Feb.1928) m.(8 Oct.1864 Hillhall Presbyterian Church) Isabella McGowan (c1842-16 June 1916), m. Margaret Elizabeth (d.31 Jan.1946)
1872- Will of Jane Stewart- to “nephew Christopher Todd of Belfast Linen warehouseman” farm in Ballymullen.
Todd Christopher of 19 Dundela Gardens Belfast retired clerk died 17 February 1928 Probate Belfast 13 July to Margaret Todd the widow John Hamilton builder and John Clements timber merchant. Effects £2105 5s. 5d.
Todd Margaret Elizabeth of 19 Dundela Gardens Belfast widow died 31 January 1946 at University Nursing Home 83 University Street Belfast Administration (limited) Belfast 14 March to Mary Beatrice Harvey spinster. Effects £107 1s. 8d.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Blaris/Ballymullan/1239479
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Blaris/Ballymullen/248614
3. Agnes Todd (c1847-aft.1911) m.(c1870) Robert Todd (c1843-25 May 1918), farmer, Ballymullen, son of Hugh Todd
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Blaris/Ballymullan/1239468
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Blaris/Ballymullen/248586
Letters of Administration of Robert Todd late of Ballymullan, County Down, farmer, who died 25 May 1918 granted at Belfast to Christopher Todd, Ballymullan, chemist. Effects: £114 2s 6d.
a. Mary Jane Todd (11 Apr.1870)
b. Samuel Todd (1 Sept.1872)
c. AnnaBella Todd (c1875-aft.1901)
d. Robert John Todd (10 May 1877-aft.1901)
e. Agnes Todd (c1880-aft.1901)
f. Christopher Todd (c1881-aft.1918). 1901- medical hall apprentice. 1911- chemist asst (unempl.)
g. Charlotte Eliza/Lizzie Todd (c1886-aft.1911)
h. Sarah Todd (c1890-aft.1911)
4. Robert Todd (c1849-15 Aug.1864)
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McCORMACK, Major (Doctor) Campbell McNeill MC and 2 bars. Educated initially at the Carr and Ballymacbrennan,(1) National Schools ...
He was married to Ella Todd Warnock of Fernleigh, Endsleigh Drive, Belfast, in Drumbo Presbyterian Church on the 12 September 1917. She was the only daughter of the late Rev. James Warnock, formerly minister of Drumbo and of Kroonstad, South Africa where he had gone for the sake of his health. ... and the bride was given away by her uncle Mr. Christopher Todd. The reception was held at Fernleigh, the home of the bride and Mrs. Crail, her aunt, before the couple left for their honeymoon at Mallaranny, Co. Galway and Recess and Co. Galway. ... and from Christopher Todd, a cheque for £100.
Slightly wounded in late August/early September 1918, he was KIA in France on the 22.9.1918 two days after coming out of hospital and just over a year after his marriage. He was 27 years old and was serving in the 5th.(5) Field Ambulance RAMC. He is buried in Barastre(6) Communal cemetery, Pas de Calsis, France grave 11. The son of William McCormack, a farmer and Mrs. McCormack of Hillhall House, Lisburn, Co. Down, his death is also commemorated on his brother’s (H.H. McCormack’s) headstone in Drumbo Presbyterian church graveyard. He died on the 12.8.80.
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Far more information here-
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/81585-ramc-database/&page=7
Note: sections in bold are the impostant bits in regard to sorting out the Todds.
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Elizabeth Anne “Lizzie Anne” Todd (c1848-aft.1911) m.(16 Nov.1871 Belfast) Robert Dunwoody (c1847 Monaghan-1901/1911) (wit. William Alexander Todd)
She bapt. 29 Sept.1848 St. Anne’s COI. 1901- justice of the peace & tea merchant
Belfast Weekly News, 18 Nov.1871: DUNWOODY-TODD-Nov. 16, at Duncairn Presbyterian Church, Belfast, by the Rev. T.Y. Killen, Mr. Robert Dunwoody, to Lizzie Anne, daughter of the late Mr. Samuel Todd, Belfast
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Victoria/Belmont_Church_Road/1221641
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Holywood_Road/230733
1. Lizzie Dunwoody (c1877 Belfast)
2. Robert Brown Dunwoody (19 Apr.1879-aft.1936), civil engineer
Campbell College, Belfast: 55. *Dunwoody, Robert Brown, b. 19th April, 1879, son of Robert Dunwoody, Belfast. VI, July, 1896. 1st XV, 1894-95-96. 1st XI, 1895-96. A.M.I.C.E., F.C.I.S., F.R.G.S., O.B.E. (1920), C.B.E. (1924). Past President and Hon. Secy., Association of Secretaries of British Chambers of Commerce; Chief Secretary, Royal Commission on Canals and Waterways, 1910; Secretary to Government Canal Control Committee during Great War; Secy. to Industrial Advisers to U.K. delegates to Imperial Economic Conference, 1932. Author of various economic and other papers. President Old Campbellian Society, 1935-36. Address: Runnington, Tadworth, Surrey. (M) http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/CampbellCollegeRegister1.htm
3. Maggie Dunwoody (c1882 Belfast)
4. John Ernest Dunwoody (2 July 1887 Belfast). 1911- designer
“John Ernest Dunwoody, born 2nd July 1887, address Penrhyn House, Belmont, Belfast. Occupation was Motor Engineer. Penrhyn House is part of Strathearn School and was purchased by them when it came on the market in 1952.”
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/166633-campbell-college-belfast/
5. Hugh Henderson Dunwoody (c1890 Belfast-31 July 1916 WWI)
2nd Lieutenant Hugh Henderson Dunwoody, 10th (Reserve) Battalion, Royal Irish Fusiliers attached 9th (Service) Battalion (Armagh, Monaghan and Cavan Volunteers), Royal Irish Fusiliers. Gazetted Cadet (Officer Training Corps), to be Temporary Second Lieutenant (on probation), (Princess Victoria's) Royal Irish Fusiliers, 18th February 1916. London Gazette, 3rd March 1916. Killed in Action 31st July 1916, aged 26 years. Youngest son of Robert and Eliza Ann Dunwoody, of 92 Holywood Road, Strandtown, Belfast. Interred Ration Farm (La Plus Douve) Annex, Hainaut, Belguim. Grave reference III.B.3. http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2024.0
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Back to the Todds- this is my version at the moment but more does need to be verified-
Samuel Todd (d.10 Jan.1859?), manufacturer, m. Elizabeth Stewart (c1810-16 Mar.1877)
BNL 17 Jan.1859: January 10, at 71, Academy Street, Belfast, Samuel Todd, aged 59 years.
The Will of Jane Stewart late of Ballymullen County Down Widow deceased who died 10 February 1874 at same place was proved at Belfast by the oaths of Christopher Todd Warehouseman and Robert Dunwoody Commercial Traveller both of Belfast the Executors. “To Eliza Todd wife of late Samuel” WAS JANE STEWART ALSO A TODD???
Belfast Newsletter, 17 Mar.1877: TODD - March 16, at her son's residence, 28, Regent Street, Belfast, Eliza, relict of the late Samuel Todd. Her remains will be removed from above address for interment in Drumbo Burying-ground, this day (Saturday), at twelve o'clock noon. Friends will please accept this intimation.
"Eliza Todd's death record shows that she was the 'widow of a manufacturer' with a reported age of 67, present at death at 28 Regent Street was one Christopher Todd."
1. Sarah Jane Todd m.(1862 Oldham St. Scotch Church, Liverpool) William Miller
Northern Whig, 2 Sep 1862: Miller Todd —August 22, in the Street Scotch Church, Liverpool, by the Rev. Dr. White, Mr. William Miller, merchant, Liverpool, to Sarah Jane, daughter of the late Samuel Todd, Esq., of Belfast. Also BNL 2 Sept.1862
1872- Will of Jane Stewart: to Sarah Jane Miller wife of William Miller now residing in the Isle of Man
2. Samuel Todd ? 1877-28 Regent St.
1868- Todd, Samuel, manager for Grimshaw Bros., Castle Street, 28 Regent Street
1877 Belfast directory entry for Regent Street: 28 Todd, Samuel, manager for Grimshaw, Bros., Castle St.
? Belfast Telegraph 6 Oct 1882 TODD—October 5. at Thorndale Avenue, Antrim Road, Samuel, son of the late Mr. Samuel Todd, Belfast. Note: I couldn't find record of his death earlier
3. William Alexander Todd (c1847-13 Mar.1915) m.(1879) Catherine D
Witness at marriage of Elizabeth Anne Todd to Robert Dunwoody.
Administration of the Estate of William Alexander Todd late of Dundela Villas Strandtown Belfast Merchant who died 13 March 1915 granted at Belfast to Kathleen Houston Married Woman.
a. Annie Cowan (c1881)
b. Ethel Elizabeth (c1883)
c. Kathleen (c1885) m. ___ Houston
d. Jessie Kinloch (c1887)
e. Isabel Muriel
f. Margreta M
4. Elizabeth Anne “Lizzie Anne” Todd (c1848) m.(1871) Robert Dunwoody- see above
5. John Todd (c1851) m.(4 June 1883) Elizabeth
1901- Todd, John (director of Gibson & Co., Donegall Place), Clarinda, Fortwilliam Park
a. William Edwin Carson (1884)
b. John Basil (1885)
c. Florence Margaret Carson (1886)
d. Ernest Victor (1888)
e. Elizabeth McC.
f. Albert Edward
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The given facts are drawing near to the truth of the matter. I'm even beginning to think the brick wall may come down. Great stuff. I'm spending any time I have spare trying to get to grips with this. Many thanks
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Florence margaret Carson was my Auntie Flossie, whom I remember well from my childhood.
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The more I think about it the more I think this could be the way it was. I'll try and dig some more. Many thanks for your hard work.
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Ive plotted the addresses of any Todds you've identified
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BasaNbEQtJmt6RJbv5jHqc-jctA&usp=sharing
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I've tried to summarise the evidence so far on a spreadsheet:
https://www.icloud.com/numbers/0wOHngF7rPsI3iPuPlDtjo17A#Todd_Links
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Some of this I typed earlier and will overlap what gaffy has recently posted.
Starting with this Christopher Todd-
Christopher Todd (c1835 Co.Down-7 May 1905)
1890 directory: 16 Alfred St. Masonic Lodge No.10 Christopher Todd, house steward
The Will of William M'Murray late of Hill Hall County Down Farmer who died 25 December 1890 at same place was proved at Belfast by Henry Hunter of No. 44 Duncairn Gardens Antrim road Belfast Builder and Christopher Todd of No. 16 Alfred-street Belfast Mercantile Clerk the Executors.
1901- boarder Christopher Todd, 65, Co.Down, commercial clerk, not married. Also Wm L Todd - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Trinity_Street/934890/.
Belfast Newsletter, 8 May 1905: TODD- May 7, at his residence, 9, Trinity Street, Belfast, Funeral private. No flowers. W.L. Todd.Christopher Todd
Administration (with the Will) of the estate of Christopher Todd late of 9 Trinity-street Belfast Clerk who died 7 May 1905 granted at Belfast to William Leck Todd Warehouseman.
William Leck Todd (c1851 Co.Antrim-25 Apr.1932)
"when John Todd married Elizabeth McCammond in 1883, one of the witnesses was a 'William Lackie Todd'."
1901- boarder Wm L Todd, 49, Co,Antrim, clerk to druggist, not married. Also Christopher Todd. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Trinity_Street/934890/
1911- boarder- retired embr. linen trade. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Duncairn/Limestone_Road/141442/
Todd William Leck of 75 Limestone Road Belfast retired warehouseman died 25 April 1932 Probate Belfast 17 June to Philip Brady cashier. Effects £607 0s. 3d.
Can you explain exactly what a mercantile clerk did please?
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I think a mercantile clerk did the books / accounts of any kind of trading business.
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Thank you. That's very helpful. :)
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HI, I recently had a male DNA test from a Descendnat of Robert Todd b 1858 Belfast that showed his family had origins in the Ballyalbanagh/Cogry region of Co Antrim. I'm encouraging anyone searching for their Todd roots to do a male DNA sample and compare with the database of several hundred Todd DNA samples in the Family Tree DNA Todd Project.
Would you have any interest in that?
Would you have any suitable cnadidates i.e. male Todds desc from male Todds.
Richard McMUrtry
Todd Families in America
Todd International DNA Project