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Title: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: huriteAO on Friday 12 August 16 10:50 BST (UK)
My great great great grandmother and daughter died a day or so after arrival in NZ in 1852.
Her husband died 5 years later. He was a Fencible. Two sons were 9 and 12yrs old, and two aged 18 and 20yrs. If willing, would the elder brothers have been able to raise the younger brothers, or would they have been taken into care?
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 12 August 16 19:29 BST (UK)
This Auckland newspaper item makes mention of Roman Catholic orphanage establishments in 1858......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZ18580602.2.2.3?query=orphanage

Would you like to provide some names? as we may be able to find something relating to your ancestors and their upbringing.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: huriteAO on Friday 12 August 16 20:44 BST (UK)
Thank You Minniehaha .... Louis James Haddon and Andrew Haddon are the younger brothers. Charles is 20, and Robert 18, but he dies in 1860
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 12 August 16 21:20 BST (UK)
If the same Louis Haddon this family had a lot of bad luck.......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18881204.2.29?query=louis%20haddon

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: Janette on Friday 12 August 16 21:23 BST (UK)
There is a death for Louis James Haddon with age not recorded

1905/4649   Haddon    Louis James    NR

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 12 August 16 21:28 BST (UK)
A little more to add to reply #3..........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18881204.2.22?query=andrew%20haddon

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 13 August 16 01:13 BST (UK)
There is a death for Louis James Haddon with age not recorded

1905/4649   Haddon    Louis James    NR

Cheers Janette

Registration place was Hunterville, Otago.  According to a tree online he was born in 1848.  Lluellyn he also was known as.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 13 August 16 01:17 BST (UK)
Death details for Charles Haddon..........

1924/5319   Haddon   Charles   87Y


https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HNS19240804.2.10?query=charles%20haddon

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 13 August 16 01:23 BST (UK)
Registration place was Hunterville, Otago.  According to a tree online he was born in 1848.  Lluellyn he also was known as.


Cheers
KHP
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Mmmm....... Hunterville, Otago. I wonder if that is correct?

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 13 August 16 01:28 BST (UK)
Minnie, that is what the NZ Death Index 1848 to 1964 states on the Ancestry website.   Looking at the tree it is also stated that he came to NZ with his three brothers.   Born Wemyss, Fife, Scotland.  No parents are mentioned nor brothers names.  Marriage 1874.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 13 August 16 01:38 BST (UK)
Family search has his probate by the looks of it .... just enter his first name in.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 13 August 16 02:10 BST (UK)
The Electoral Rolls:

1896 Waikato - Andrew Haddon, Labourer, Taupiri, Louis John Haddon, Farmer

1900 As above

1905-1906 Andrew Haddon, Farmer, Charles, Labourer and Louis John Haddon, Farmer

That is the last time that Louis John Haddon appears on the Roll;

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: Janette on Saturday 13 August 16 02:41 BST (UK)
Maybe this is Andrew's death with the alternate spelling

1915/2961   Hadden    Andrew    67Y

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: Janette on Saturday 13 August 16 02:43 BST (UK)
Buried in the Taupiri lawn cemetery

https://www.waikatodistrict.govt.nz/services-facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries-database/allotment/18335

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 13 August 16 03:13 BST (UK)
I wonder if the alternate spelling was used? - as checking out the NZ Cities and Area Directories, for Louis, the surname is Hadden


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 13 August 16 03:16 BST (UK)
Re Hunterville, Otago. I wasn't doubting you KHP. Truly...... ;D

I missed the "NZ Death Index" bit but saw "Ancestry" and thought perhaps someone had submitted incorrect information. And obviously my place name knowledge is lacking.  :P

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 13 August 16 03:22 BST (UK)
Didn't think you were Minnie ... I think getting the Death Printout will reveal the right place of death ... I can't seem to find a place of death for him on the locator, and I have done a soundex look.  Unless he is one of the unknown ones on the link that Janette gave?


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 13 August 16 03:30 BST (UK)
In saying that he was one of the unknown ones at Taupiri, then that explains why it wouldn't be on the locator when the transcribing was done ;D


Cheers
KHP

ADDED:  The thought did cross my mind that perhaps he was holiday in the South Island when he died, hence the Registration area.   
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 13 August 16 04:01 BST (UK)
From the 'Waikato Argus'.....

Probate granted in the estate of Louis HADDEN..........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WAIGUS19051219.2.9?query=louis%20hadden


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: Janette on Saturday 13 August 16 04:56 BST (UK)
From the 'Waikato Argus'.....

Probate granted in the estate of Louis HADDEN..........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WAIGUS19051219.2.9?query=louis%20hadden

Minniehaha.

His wiil states his wife is Rangiora and children are Maria Campbell,Jane Gentry,Charles Hadden and Nellie Hadden

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G97G-9ZFB?i=94&wc=Q8C5-DB3%3A1045248101%2C1045248102%3Fcc%3D1865481&cc=1865481

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: huriteAO on Saturday 13 August 16 14:22 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone ... My posts need to be more precise so that I am not causing folks to search for info that I have long had. I am interested about what happened to the young brothers between their Dads death in 1857, and the time Louis marries Rangiora. Robert died in 1860 so only Charles would have been on hand - hopefully.
Interestingly the three surviving sons married Maori women, the two younger ones settling in Taupiri - Andrew, and my gt get grandfather Louis.
Backtracking beyond their parents wedding and early years in Tipperary is the the fence I find difficult to climb

Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: Janette on Saturday 13 August 16 20:29 BST (UK)
Hi huriteAO,

it often helps us form a better picture of what we are looking for if we post the information we have found,could you tell us the names of the parents please?

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 15 August 16 04:27 BST (UK)
Regarding the earlier mention of the death registration place (Hunterville, Otago) of Louis James HADDON in 1905, curiosity got the better of me and I went hunting.........[ ::)   ::)]


The death was registered in the third quarter of 1905 at HUNTLY, in the registration district of AUCKLAND.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 15 August 16 04:31 BST (UK)
Someone stretched out the "Hunt" part ;D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 15 August 16 04:41 BST (UK)
Sure did! And I am pleased my geography isn't so bad after all.......... ;D


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: Eva simone on Tuesday 28 May 19 00:11 BST (UK)
Hi there I too am a descendant of Louis and rangiora . Did you ever manage to find what you were looking for ? I think many of us are in the same boat to find info behind their marriage. However they are both buried in taupiri
Title: Re: Auckland NZ orphanages 1850s-1860s
Post by: huriteAO on Tuesday 28 May 19 08:53 BST (UK)
Yes I did thanks Eva. Charles looked after his younger brothers. They moved to Taupiri which is where they found their wives.