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Title: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: bob galloway on Wednesday 10 August 16 15:04 BST (UK)
Have date of death of Alexander Taylor (b.2nd Sep 1902,Peterhead,Scotland) as 18 Feb.1994 Vancouver.
Looking for confirmation of this and any other details available from death cert or M.I.
Particularly looking for info on his wife and daughters.
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: lilybell on Thursday 11 August 16 15:09 BST (UK)

A bit more information would be helpful. How did you come by a date of death for Alexander first off
British Columbia dates of death are only available till 1993.

When did he come to Canada, did he come with his family.  If he came after 1921 he will not be on any census records.

Do you have a address for him in BC? Ancestry does have Voters list for 1935-1980.

The more info you have the easier it will be to track him down and perhaps more info on wife etc.

Will check further.


Lilybell

Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 11 August 16 15:40 BST (UK)
I don't understand why you didn't include the names of the people you are "particularly looking for" as that would have been so much easier for anyone willing to try & help  ???

Particularly looking for info on his wife and daughters.

If you don't know their names/maiden name, it would have been an idea to emphasise the fact to give us an idea of what info. you have/haven't already found.

Annie
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: bob galloway on Thursday 11 August 16 16:19 BST (UK)
Alexander Taylor operated a deep sea fishing business out of Massett,Queen Charlotte Islands where he lived for many years.His daughters were Gail Frances and Catherine.I have Alexander's birth certificate but other than the foregoing have no other reliable information.I do not know his wife's name nor whether they married in the U.K. although I believe that they were married in Scotland .
The Scotlands People website has not thrown any light on this nor the LDS site. I have also searched passenger / immigration lists without success.
I believe that he had poor health in later life and passed away in or around Vancouver.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
bob
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 11 August 16 16:49 BST (UK)
Could the daughters still be alive?
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: bob galloway on Thursday 11 August 16 17:28 BST (UK)
Alexander b.1902 ,probably married 1920's.If still alive then Daughters would be in their late 80's early nineties.
thanks for your interest
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 11 August 16 17:37 BST (UK)
In order to find a marriage for Alexander you will need to know his wife's maiden name which can be obtained from the children's births but I don't know what the laws are in your search area regarding being able to obtain a birth cert?

Annie
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 11 August 16 17:47 BST (UK)
What is the earliest year of Alexander operating "a deep sea fishing business out of Massett,Queen Charlotte Islands" as this can help establish when he may have emigrated?

Annie

ADDED...I forgot to say it would also narrow the window of search for a marriage as there are 172 entries for an Alexander Taylor 1920 - 1930
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 11 August 16 17:53 BST (UK)
Were the family living in the same area Alexander was born on the 1911 census?

This could help identifying where he possibly married too.

Did he have siblings & have you found any marriages for them in Scotland with him being a witness....again would help with when he emigrated?

Annie

Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: lilybell on Thursday 11 August 16 18:10 BST (UK)
 
The following website gives some information on the boat owned by Alexander in Massett.

Gail Kay-Ship details
www.nauticapedia.ca/Query/Shiplist4.php?&name=Gail%20Kay&id-10416

Looks like he named the boat after his daughters

I am hoping to find some more info from another source so will pass it on when I receive it.



Lilybell
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 11 August 16 18:15 BST (UK)

The following website gives some information on the boat owned by Alexander in Massett.

Gail Kay-Ship details
www.nauticapedia.ca/Query/Shiplist4.php?&name=Gail%20Kay&id-10416


I get an error message for that link  :-\

Perhaps you need to do the search from the home page?
http://www.nauticapedia.ca/index.php
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 11 August 16 18:34 BST (UK)
Found the details given by lilybell

In 1961-1964 she was owned by Alexander Taylor, Masset BC.

Not really helping with an approx. date of emigration sadly  :-\

Annie
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 11 August 16 18:39 BST (UK)
There is a immigration record for a Alec Taylor age 21 birth year of 1902 Aberdeen departure Stonehaven ...Arrival 18 August 1923 Halifax ship Caronia contact details his mother Isabella Taylor ?
Rosie
Probably not him see it was Peterhead he was from not Stonehaven  ::)
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 11 August 16 19:05 BST (UK)
Looks good Rosie...

The one I looked at had address as Old Mill Lane, is it the same or a different one?

Looks like he was single then?

I can't get back in to FindMyPast to finish what I was reading  ::)

Annie

Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 11 August 16 19:22 BST (UK)
Looks good Rosie...

The one I looked at had address as Old Mill Lane, is it the same or a different one?

Looks like he was single then?

I can't get back in to FindMyPast to finish what I was reading  ::)

Annie


Don't think its him Annie looks like the same record as you but thought address was Gerald Street
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: Christine53 on Thursday 11 August 16 21:35 BST (UK)
Another thread on this subject from 2009 with a few variations in the details :

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=382314.0
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 11 August 16 22:06 BST (UK)
Thanks CB53 for previous link......helps a lot.

We love asking questions which have already been answered & then denied.

I do not know his wife's name

From original thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=382314.0

"I have no details of his daughters but his wife's first name was Elizabeth"  ::)


Annie




Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: lilybell on Thursday 11 August 16 23:07 BST (UK)
An exact date of birth for Alexander would help narrow down a passenger list record for him and knowing when he came to Canada. When you say he came to Can at a young age are do you mean as a child or as say a teen.  Goodness never knew there were so many records for a Alexander Taylor!!!.

Wonder if he went some where else in Canada before settling in BC.
Not finding any vital statistics  record in BC for Elizabeth.

Another piece of vital information would be DOB for the two daughters.


Lilybell ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 11 August 16 23:38 BST (UK)
Well, we've certainly wasted lots of time searching for information that was already known  :-\ as well as being given conflicting and evasive answers on this thread  ::)

The other thread also gives another version of one of the daughter's name. I see no reason to assume that one or both could not still be alive so their details really shouldn't have been posted here.
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: bob galloway on Friday 12 August 16 08:46 BST (UK)
Thanks to those who responded to my sincere request for help.
Sorry to those whos time I might have inadvertantly wasted .
Please close this topic.
bob
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 14:06 BST (UK)
This is an old thread ............

Alexander Taylor (fisherman) born 26 September 1911 and informant Gail Mortimer (daughter) signed the certificate 23 February 1994 Burnaby BC. Place of death :- Vancouver BC.
Father Alexander Taylor and Mother Annie Robertson both Scotland.
Spouse:- Elizabeth Wells Bratley. 5708 McKee Street Burnaby. BC.
Burial - Masset Cemetery.

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/358e1276-f267-437f-89c7-0f92c9401f3b

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/593b2746-6aa3-4647-9da9-7d248df9ea72

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 14:07 BST (UK)
Marriage - Alexander Taylor (bachelor - 31 years)  and Elizabeth Wells Bratley - (spinster - 27 years) married 10 July 1943

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/1c54d973-3cbc-481a-8843-8b9e5e3add50

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 14:12 BST (UK)
The mother of "J" and "G" Mortimer - MORTIMER Bess (Elizabeth) It is with sadness Bess took her final journey on June 23rd, 2009 with her children by her side. Daughter of
the late Jim and Mary McCaig. Bess Mortimer, beloved wife of the late Ron (July 16th, 1979). Loving mother of her 5 children who will cherish her memory.....................

Published in the Vancouver Sun and/or The Province from 7/3/2009 - 7/4/2009

https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/can-bc-obits@rootsweb.com/thread/2317962/

G and J were living on MCKee street on the voets list 1974.

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 16:36 BST (UK)
Emily Frances M Wells married William Oliver Bratle - 11 February 1915 Vancouver BC.

Emily Frances Bratley - 1896 - died 2 February 1973 - Vancouver BC.  Aged 77 years.

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: bob galloway on Sunday 05 April 20 17:06 BST (UK)
Thanks Sandra for taking the time to chase this down for us,it is very much appreciated.
My wife and I are currently both in 12 weeks self isolation as a precaution for this nasty virus business.
Your kindness has given two old timers a wonderful lift!
God bless
Bob Galloway
Ayrshire

Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 17:14 BST (UK)
Obituary - Elizabeth Frances Bratley - 6 February 1973

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/48053589/emily-frances-bratley-6-february-1973/

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 17:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Sandra for taking the time to chase this down for us,it is very much appreciated.
My wife and I are currently both in 12 weeks self isolation as a precaution for this nasty virus business.
Your kindness has given two old timers a wonderful lift!
God bless
Bob Galloway
Ayrshire

Snap.  We are locked away. Pleased to help. Hope to find a little more for you.

Take Care
Stay Safe
Regards
Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 17:21 BST (UK)

William Oliver Bratley/Oliver William Bratley -

The Vancouver Sun Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
10 Nov 1950, Fri    Page 33

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/48056448/oliver-william-bratley-10-november/

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 17:23 BST (UK)
Death Cert for William/Oliver Bratley

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/48056448/oliver-william-bratley-10-november/

FIND A GRAVE

Oliver William Bratley

Mountain View Cemetery Vancouver, Greater Vancouver Regional District, British Columbia, Canada
PLOT   ABRAY/*/17/005/0016

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/26278006

Sandra

Sandra

Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 17:30 BST (UK)
Marriage of Bratley daughter Ivy Annie May Bratley (now deceased) to William Paven (now deceased)
Ivy remarries after the death of William in 1969 to someone with the surname Woodford 

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/da7486bb-b18b-4549-b058-fcae4070b6de

William Pavan 29 October 1916 (the husband of Ivy died 26 November 1969 - Vancouver British Columbia.

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/87cd6cf3-3fba-48fc-815b-083256da5f7d

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 17:32 BST (UK)
Elizabeth DANICEK (was the daughter of Ivy and William Paven)
August 24, 1940 – December 7, 2018

https://vancouversunandprovince.remembering.ca/obituary/elizabeth-danicek-1071822749

William, Ivy and Elizabeth Pavan (teacher) appear on Canada Voters List 1962 - 2220  East 37 th Avenue Vancouver.

Sandra
Title: Re: Alexander Taylor :details of death Vancouver
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 05 April 20 17:37 BST (UK)

Death Certificate:-

Paul Danicek - the husband of Elizabeth (above) died 9 th May 1985 - Vancouver BC

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/72d23df0-47e4-405d-a96e-ebbe33e4840b



Sandra