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Title: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: MaggieH on Wednesday 03 August 16 05:29 BST (UK)
Does anyone have access to the original parish records of Doveridge or Sudbury for the 1600s/1700s? I am trying to ascertain which Edward Madeley is mine as there were several, all farmers from the same area at the same time. My Edward was born in 1681 and was mentioned in his father's will of 1705. Edward senior also mentions "my now wife" Mary. Does this mean he was married before? Edward senior died in 1705 and Mary in 1723, though I have no specific date, maybe those entries in the register would help. No other children are named in the will. There are many Madeleys in the same area of this time. Any help to sort this tangle out would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Liz
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: Derbysderek on Sunday 07 August 16 23:00 BST (UK)
Initial searches show only two christenings at Doveridge:

31.12.1634 Edward Madeley..father John

28.04.1717.Edward Madeley ..father Edward

both these are CHRISTENINGS and give no indication of Birth..so in theory Edward 1717 could be an adult christening. it's pushing it a bit but I've met similar.

Derek
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: MaggieH on Monday 08 August 16 03:38 BST (UK)
Thankyou for that Derek. I believe that Edward who was christened in 1717 is the son of Edward and Joan (Harrison). I think that Edward the father is probably the son of Edward who married a Mary (surname unreadable), possibly in Sudbury 1681. I know that some transcriptions of Doveridge appear online but I have not seen any for Sudbury. I was hoping that the parish registers might provide a little more info about each Edward to differentiate. I know it's a long shot, but I have seen that done occasionally. However I am a very long way from Derbyshire so am unable to see the PR myself. Thanks again for the suggestions,
Liz
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: Derbysderek on Monday 08 August 16 16:46 BST (UK)
Sudbury is in fact a Parish in its own right.and has Baptisms from 1673 and Marriages from 1674..I do visit Matlock records Office relatively frequently and will have a look see on my next visit.

You might try looking at Boyleston..being the nearest Parish, and Longford......

Derek
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: MaggieH on Tuesday 09 August 16 09:38 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for that offer Derek. I would be grateful for any Madeley information you might find from those early dates. I have seen a very difficult to read marriage bond for the Edward and Mary married in 1681. It does say that she is from Sudbury, but I cannot make out her surname. It's possible they settled there, or that she had at least her first child there. It is impossible for me to view the PR for Sudbury as they are not on any database and I live in Australia. Bit of a long way from Matlock! DRO has an index of documents which also mentions an Edward Madeley, yeoman, of Mackley. However, I have never heard of a town or parish with that name. It is perhaps a farm??
Thanks for your insight.
All the best,
Liz
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: Derbysderek on Tuesday 09 August 16 23:02 BST (UK)
Mackworth??? i have the Parish records for Mackworth.......not a million miles from Sudbury!!
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: MaggieH on Wednesday 10 August 16 08:30 BST (UK)
It definitely says Mackley in the catalogue entry, also he is referred to in a will as of either Mackley or Markley, I can't decipher which. Maybe it is a local term for that parish?
Liz
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: Derbysderek on Thursday 11 August 16 21:52 BST (UK)
There is no Mackley or Markley in Derbyshire..there is a Mickley in the Dronfield/Chesterfield area..but that is some way from the area we're interested in.will get back to you when i have searched my Mackworth records.
derek
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: MaggieH on Wednesday 17 August 16 02:41 BST (UK)
Thanks so much Derek for your offer. My feeling is that they were farmers in the Doveridge Sudbury area but you never know. I think I should just be grateful I have been able to trace them this far, and I am thrilled to know they were from beautiful Derbyshire.
Best wishes,
Liz
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: spendlove on Wednesday 17 August 16 21:04 BST (UK)
Hi

Place names of Derbyshire by Cameron has the following entry for Mackley :-

http://placenames.org.uk/browse/mads/epns-deep-29-c-mappedname-000676

Spendlove
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: spendlove on Wednesday 17 August 16 21:32 BST (UK)
Hi

Evidence that Mackley was a place can be found in 1881 census.  Search for George hallaby born 1836 Thurvaston Derbyshire. He is living Dale brook Mackley, on the next page of this census are a number of other entries for Mackley in the hamlet of dale brook parish of Sudbury

Spendlove
Title: Re: Edward Madeley of Doveridge or Sudbury b. 1681
Post by: MaggieH on Thursday 18 August 16 07:36 BST (UK)
Thankyou so much for that information! It puts me very clearly in the right place for my Edward Madeley. Pieces of the puzzle falling into place. I will see if I can find out a little more about it now.
Cheers,
Liz