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Title: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 29 July 16 10:00 BST (UK)
Please can anyone help me find Pearl More Smieton.

She was born in 1892 Broughty Ferry Scotland.

She was last known on the 8 August 1941, when she was granted Probate to her Mother Will.
The address where they lived was Ardsheal Kippington Rd, Sevenoaks. She was a spinster.

Both her sisters live in Sevenoaks. I can no marriage for her or Death. I have try looking at the Scottish people site, but there is nothing there that comes up in that name.
I have look at passenger list, but it doesn't show her.
She did write two Poems books in 1937 and 1938.

Any help in tracing her would be wonderful. Thank you.
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 29 July 16 10:54 BST (UK)
The mother Caroline Smieton died at Kinakyle, Aviemore, Inverness, which was the address of P M Smieton per the phone books for 1940-1963. PM Smieton was also the subscriber at the Sevenoaks address in 1946.

In 1965 PM Smieton is listed at Reres Drumduan, Forres
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 10:55 BST (UK)
The mother Caroline Smieton died at Kinakyle, Aviemore, Inverness, which was the address of P M Smieton per the phone books for 1940-1963. PM Smieton was also the subscriber at the Sevenoaks address in 1946.

In 1965 PM Smieton is listed at Reres Drumduan, Forres


Beat me to it ShaunJ ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 29 July 16 10:57 BST (UK)
There's a Scottish will mentioned in The Times of 26 April 1967. Miss Pearl More Smieton of Forres.
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 29 July 16 11:02 BST (UK)
Date of death 25 September 1966 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/44163/page/12033/data.pdf
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 11:05 BST (UK)
Death on  Scotlands People Pearl More Shieton age 73 died 1966 Forres Moray certificate would need to be ordered
Rosie
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: ShaunJ on Friday 29 July 16 11:08 BST (UK)
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Death on  Scotlands People Pearl More Shieton age 73 died 1966 Forres Moray certificate would need to be ordered

This time you just beat me to it, Rosie !
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 11:20 BST (UK)
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Death on  Scotlands People Pearl More Shieton age 73 died 1966 Forres Moray certificate would need to be ordered

This time you just beat me to it, Rosie !
;D ;D
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 29 July 16 13:13 BST (UK)
Oh Thank you so much both of you.
I wonder why I couldn't find her death on Scottish People.
All the information is Wonderful and will keep me busy for a while.
Cheers to you both.
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 29 July 16 13:56 BST (UK)
I don't know if you could turn up her married sister death for me please. I find her either  ???

Gladys More Thomson born 1890 Broughty Ferry.
Husband George.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 13:56 BST (UK)
Your welcome ....yes explains how you could not find her death on Scotlands People was best just to put her forename in and date of birth ...Shaun has gave you plenty to keep you busy
Rosie
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 29 July 16 14:01 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 14:03 BST (UK)
Did Gladys marry in England or Scotland ?
Forget that just found her marriage  ;D
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 14:19 BST (UK)
Probate record Gladys More Thomson of Lappkarrsvagen 46Stockholm Sweden and care of Thomas Thornton Son and Company Dundee .Widow died 17/4/1962 at Sankteriks Hospital ...probate London 13November to Lady Maude Ipsolde Sanderson married woman and Pearl More Smieton
Effects £8,048.10.8
Rosie




Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 29 July 16 14:31 BST (UK)
Thank you so much. How did you find that?
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 14:41 BST (UK)
An....y she appears to have lived in Canada for a while also there are a few immigration records  for her you might be able to view www.family search.org 
Rosie
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 29 July 16 15:04 BST (UK)
Thank you I will take a look.
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 15:05 BST (UK)
Her husband was George Clark Thomson born 1885 Dunblane Scotland he was a barrister you might have this information
Rosie
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: jamcat95 on Friday 29 July 16 16:30 BST (UK)
Probate record Gladys More Thomson of Lappkarrsvagen 46Stockholm Sweden

Hi
I took a look in the Swedish database and Gladys comes up a couple of times. Her full name according to these was Gladys More Thomson nee Smiston born 7 Oct 1892 in Canada.


Ian

Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 16:56 BST (UK)
Probate record Gladys More Thomson of Lappkarrsvagen 46Stockholm Sweden

Hi
I took a look in the Swedish database and Gladys comes up a couple of times. Her full name acoording to these was Gladys More Thomson nee Smiston born 7 Oct 1892 in Canada.


Ian

Yes did see Gladys more Thomsen  ( Gladys More Siniston ) in the births from the Swedish death index 7 Okt 1892
Rosie
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 29 July 16 17:18 BST (UK)
Oh dear my Gladys More was Broughty Ferry in 1890 Father John More Smieton and mother Caroline nee Sanderson  ???
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 29 July 16 17:19 BST (UK)
But the will is right   ???
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 29 July 16 18:09 BST (UK)
But the will is right   ???

Yes would agree information by the person who registered the death could have gave the wrong place of birth  ..Probably because she lived in Canada  definitely your Gladys in the probate record
Rosie
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 29 July 16 19:55 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie You're a Star  ;D
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 July 16 05:40 BST (UK)
Google Gladys More Thomson died Sweden you will find a couple of Newspaper items regarding her estate
Rosie
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Saturday 30 July 16 05:53 BST (UK)
I don't know what I am doing wrong, but I can find anything about her   ??? I will try again and put the year as well.
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Saturday 30 July 16 05:54 BST (UK)
Got it. Thanks again Rosie  ;D
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 30 July 16 06:22 BST (UK)
Got it. Thanks again Rosie  ;D
Was just going to say don't put the year in but I see you found it  ;D ;D
Rosie
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: Stillhere2 on Thursday 07 December 17 20:40 GMT (UK)
I just came across your post looking for Pearl More Smieton. I grew up in the highlands and knew her.  I called her Auntie Pearl and I still have a book that she gave me and a painting she did of Menton, probably in the early 50's. My sister also has a painting by her. If you want to know any more about her I will try to help.
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 08 December 17 07:09 GMT (UK)
Could you tell me where Pearl is buried? I have been researching her sister Maud and her husband.
Mainly Maud's work in the Scottish women Hospital in the WW1 in France. I brought a book of poems Maud had written and sent back home. Pearl had made them up into a book for her. The book must of been sold when Maud died and turn up in an auction, I fell in love with it. I think Maud and Pearl were twins? I will be getting their birth certificates shorty.  I have been researching this family, parents, grandparents and so on and found them a wonderful family.
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: Stillhere2 on Friday 08 December 17 15:04 GMT (UK)
I'm sorry I don't know where she is buried but would imagine it will be either Forfar or Aviemore. We moved in the late fifties and at that time she was still in Aviemore. She lived with a Irish companion, who we called Auntie Paddy but I can't remember her full, or real name. Paddy was a Catholic and there was no Catholic church in Aviemore. Pearl paid for land and a small church to be built. This was near the house on the other side of the road. Paddy was buried there and that is why Pearl may be buried there if she is not buried in Forfar.
I did not know anything about Pearl's family but I think my parents thought her family were something to do with Jute mills in Dundee. I would be interested in the family story if you have it. We loved going to see her as she was a lovely lady and her garden was beautiful and colourful.   
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: AmateurGenealogistPaddy on Monday 16 August 21 00:10 BST (UK)
To the kind person offering more info re:Pearl More Smieton, I wondered if you might be so kind to say if you knew much about ‘Auntie Paddy’ as you described her .. she is my relative and I am similarly trying to follow her amazing story. Could you let me know if you are still on here and we can perhaps open a line of info? Thanks!
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: AmateurGenealogistPaddy on Monday 16 August 21 00:20 BST (UK)
Could you tell me where Pearl is buried? I have been researching her sister Maud and her husband.
Mainly Maud's work in the Scottish women Hospital in the WW1 in France. I brought a book of poems Maud had written and sent back home. Pearl had made them up into a book for her. The book must of been sold when Maud died and turn up in an auction, I fell in love with it. I think Maud and Pearl were twins? I will be getting their birth certificates shorty.  I have been researching this family, parents, grandparents and so on and found them a wonderful family.

Hi, linked to another post, your comment that Maud and Pearl might be twins - did your birth certificate confirm this? What is really intriguing (maybe not but I like the idea) is that Maud was a nurse and served in WWI but so too was the Auntie Paddy (my relative) who another contributor mentioned was a long term companion of Pearl’s and whom she helped fund the building of the small Catholic (St Aidan’s) church in Aviemore  that was dedicated to the 51st Highland Division whom we are to believe she supported in her WWI nursing duties in Alexandria, Egypt and possibly Gallipoli. I wonder if Pearl and Paddy came into contact via Maud?
Have you come across anything? Has Maud any descendents in the Aviemore area still?
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: Clare Thompson on Friday 20 May 22 16:22 BST (UK)
Hello, I came across this post while working on some research relating to the Glasgow Ballad Club, of which Pearl More Smieton appears to have been a member. https://libcat.csglasgow.org/web/arena/glasgow-ballad-club. There are typewritten and hand written poems by her within the collecttion.
Title: Re: Pearl More Smieton
Post by: CU on Friday 20 May 22 17:37 BST (UK)
Thank you