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Title: SOLVED - Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: bookfairy on Wednesday 27 July 16 23:50 BST (UK)
Hi RC!

I am searching for information pertaining to Joseph Lonsdale.  He married an Isabella Kirton on 8 Dec 1832 in Newcastle Upon Tyne.  I have found four children for them.  Isabella appears alone with the kids in 1851.

His son William moved to Canada and changed his last name to Robson.  No apparent reason.

Thank you in advance!
Mariya
Title: Re: Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 28 July 16 00:25 BST (UK)
In 1841 they are shown as Lumsdon and under "occupation" Isabella is shown as widow 

Isabella Lumsdon   30
Joseph     10
Jane  8
William     5
Matthew  1
HO107 Piece 846/4 Folio 34 Page 9

Was Joseph jnr born before the 1832 marriage?
Title: Re: Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 28 July 16 00:26 BST (UK)
There is this death on freebmd

Deaths June qtr 1840   
Joseph Lonsdale        Newcastle upon Tyne    25   225
Title: Re: Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 28 July 16 00:35 BST (UK)
Son Joseph was born as Kirton - from Family Search

Joseph Kirton
Gender    Male
Christening Date    12 Oct 1831
Christening Place    Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Mother's Name    Isabella Kirton
Title: Re: Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: bookfairy on Thursday 28 July 16 00:38 BST (UK)
You guys are awesome!!!

Yes, he was born before the marriage.  I've wondered if he is actually Joseph's son, despite the common given name.
Title: Re: SOLVED - Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 08 December 16 21:52 GMT (UK)
Using the new GRO facility shows Joseph Lonsdale was aged 30 when he died in 1840
Title: Re: SOLVED - Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: patrexjax on Thursday 08 December 16 22:02 GMT (UK)
Hello! I have some additional information on the Kirton family if you are interested. In addition, I also have information on Isabella's sister, Sarah Kirton, Sincerely, patrexjax
Title: Re: SOLVED - Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: bookfairy on Sunday 11 December 16 17:17 GMT (UK)
Quote from: patrexjax on Thursday 08 December 16 22:02 GMT (UK)
Hello! I have some additional information on the Kirton family if you are interested. In addition, I also have information on Isabella's sister, Sarah Kirton, Sincerely, patrexjax

I'd love to get more information.  My sister and I have been stumbling along on this particular line.
Title: Re: SOLVED - Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: patrexjax on Sunday 11 December 16 18:43 GMT (UK)
I am sending you a PM, Sincerely, patrexjax
Title: Re: SOLVED - Lonsdale, Joseph birth / death date
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 12 December 16 12:18 GMT (UK)
Unless there were 2 Joseph/Isabellas around at the same time there are these on FreeREG.

BAPTISMS;
DOROTHY Lonsdale, 17 Nov 1834, All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne
Parents JOSEPH/ISABELLA
Abode New Road
Fathers Occp Chain Maker
+ same Church
JOSEPH Lonsdale, 20 June 1811 (birth 4 July 1809)
Parents  JOSEPH/DOROTHY
Abode Tanfield, Durham
Fathers Occp Millwright
Millwright
Notes; 2nd son of Joseph and Dorothy - daughter of William Benson Mar. Of this parish
They Bapt a Daug DOROTHY 24 Jan 1805 same Church;
Entry reads - Dorothy Lonsdale 2d Dr of Joseph Lonsdale Joiner*** of Tanfield Durham by his wife Dorothy Dr of William Benson marr [mariner**] of this Chapelry.

So Millwright and earlier a Joiner for Joseph Snrs Occp and Dorothys Father a Mariner.

MARRIAGE of Joseph/Dorothy 28 April 1799 All Saints

BURIAL of JOSEPH Lonsdale 19 June 1811 All Saints
Age;   40
Abode; St. John's Lane
Notes ; Millwright. Died 17 Jun 1811

I cant find a Census or Burial for Dorothy c 1834 though.