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Title: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: KissAlive on Tuesday 26 July 16 06:44 BST (UK)
Hi
Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction.i am a member of ancesrty.com and cannot find anymore info..
I have so far is her name Muriel Essie Phillips...she married Allan William Arthur Richards in 1930 Kurri kurri NSW
Allan then passed away in 1932 and she remarried in 1937 to a John Lee.
We cannot seem to find anything about her Birth Death or Parents..
Any help in maybe pointing me as to where I should look would be great
Thank
Rhys
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 26 July 16 06:56 BST (UK)
Hiya Rhys - is Essie a nickname for Esther - or was her name Essie ?
added
could you post her year and place of death please

OK found that - 1965 in Kurri Kurri ( for other members to see - Muriel Essie Lee )
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Muriel is buried in Kurri Kurri General Cemetery - if there is a headstone it may give her birthdate  ??
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 26 July 16 06:58 BST (UK)
Do you have names of siblings?

Jamjar
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 26 July 16 07:02 BST (UK)
Her death:  Muriel Essie LEE 22252/1965 father Jack and mother Elsie KURRI KURRI
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: KissAlive on Tuesday 26 July 16 07:03 BST (UK)
Hi
Thats all I have is essie could possibly something else.all I know is she was married to my grandfather allan william arthur richards..
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 26 July 16 07:09 BST (UK)
Possibly second hubby's death. Marriage details have him as John James Lee:

John James 40834/1965 father Herbert John and mother Lilian Francis KURRI KURRI
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 26 July 16 07:12 BST (UK)
You'll find a photo of her headstone here: http://austcemindex.com/?given_names=muriel&family_name=lee&state=NSW
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: KissAlive on Tuesday 26 July 16 07:29 BST (UK)
Hi this is rhys I'd like to thank you very much that has given me a great deal to work with now  :) ;)
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 26 July 16 07:32 BST (UK)
You'll find a photo of her headstone here: http://austcemindex.com/?given_names=muriel&family_name=lee&state=NSW

what a great site - just looked at the photo of Muriels grave - says she was 54 when she died in 1965 - so we now know she was born 1910 / 1911   
great work that Jamjar and thank you for that site - definitely one site to note down -
I am sure Rhys will be pleased to see that photo of the grave of Muriel ... :)
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 26 July 16 07:54 BST (UK)
You're welcome.

I can't find a birth for her or for any siblings to a John and Elsie Phillips in NSW.

Jamjar
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 26 July 16 08:11 BST (UK)
You're welcome.

I can't find a birth for her or for any siblings to a John and Elsie Phillips in NSW.

Jamjar
neither could I - and I couldn't find any children to Allan Richards and Muriel Essie - so if Rhys was looking for info of "his grandads wife " and his grandad died in 1932 - I presume Muriel was his Second wife and he had children to his first wife ??
I am a little puzzled - doyou think I have that right ?.....or have I veered off track ?
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: KissAlive on Tuesday 26 July 16 08:21 BST (UK)
Hi again
Allan william arthur my grandfather had a son, my father arthur william allan.in 1932  the same year allan william arthur died on the 9th dec 1932 , muriel essie and allan william arthur only had the 1 son my dad.
Thanks everyone
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 26 July 16 08:36 BST (UK)
You can only search for births on line until mid 1916, so you won't find birth's after that.

What I can't find are births to Muriel's folks that would be online, as is it indicated that Muriel was born 1910ish.

There is a Muriel E, but born to a father William.

Jamjar
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 26 July 16 08:46 BST (UK)
Do you have a death certificate for Allan Richards?

Is this his death?

Alan Richards 16543/1932 father Arthur T and mother Susanna SYDNEY

Jamjar

Added: Yes, it is .
Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 26 July 16 09:00 BST (UK)
Link: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=752478.0

Jamjar

Added: I can't find a birth for Muriel in NSW, QLD, VIC.

Title: Re: where could I look for information on Muriel Essie richards lee
Post by: cando on Tuesday 26 July 16 11:15 BST (UK)
Either of the marriage certificates would give you Muriel's age and place of birth, her parents names including her mother's maiden name and father's occupation.  Information given by her which would be more accurate than information on her death certificate.  Info on death certificates is only as accurate as the knowledge of the informant.

You can purchase a transcription of certificates in NSW for $20 from an accredited transcription agent.  The transcript is emailed to you.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx#transcription

Cando