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Title: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Friday 22 July 16 09:54 BST (UK)
Hello,
I'm trying to find out more info on this chap
Alexander Milne b 1845  Strathmiglo to Charles Milne & Jane Brown

Is there likely to have been UK will especially given the gazette article?
 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/28314/page/9281/data.pdf
according to a newspaper article he married a woman called Sahama Nasakay in Kobe but i can't find a record of that.

Hope you can help
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: miriamkinga on Friday 22 July 16 10:25 BST (UK)
Do you have him on the 1851 and 1861 census?

Charles Milne, 48 United Presb. Minister b Dunnichen
Jane 34 b Perth
William 7, Alexander 5 & Isabella 1 all b Strathmiglo
plus servants    .

1861 addition of Charles 9, Jane E 7, Jessie B 5.
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 22 July 16 10:37 BST (UK)
Probate record Alexander Milne of Kobe Japan died 14 July 1909 administration (with will limited )London 23 November ....Arthur Willson Crusoe (gentleman )one of the attorneys of John Macneilage Maitland and Alfred William Curtis ..Effects £1825.0s.3d
Rosie
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 22 July 16 11:09 BST (UK)
Buried 15 July 1909- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F791-2JJ (another source gives interment Kasuga Cemetery)
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Bookbox on Friday 22 July 16 11:12 BST (UK)
Is there likely to have been UK will especially given the gazette article?

Yes, there is a will annexed to the grant of administration. You can search the probate database and order a copy of the will online (cost £10.00).
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Friday 22 July 16 12:02 BST (UK)
Do you have him on the 1851 and 1861 census?

Charles Milne, 48 United Presb. Minister b Dunnichen
Jane 34 b Perth
William 7, Alexander 5 & Isabella 1 all b Strathmiglo
plus servants    .

1861 addition of Charles 9, Jane E 7, Jessie B 5.
I did thank you :-)
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Friday 22 July 16 12:17 BST (UK)
Thank you all, strange that none of his children are mentioned. Do you think that's because they were half Japanese? A newspaper article on his death said he had several children and that his wife & 2 sons were chief mourners at his funeral.
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Bookbox on Friday 22 July 16 12:25 BST (UK)
Thank you all, strange that none of his children are mentioned.

Are you referring to the names given in reply #2? That is an extract from the Probate Calendar. It lists the people charged with the administration of the estate. It does not list the people who benefited from the will. To find that information you will need to purchase a copy of the will -- see my reply #4 above.
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Friday 22 July 16 12:30 BST (UK)
Thank you all, strange that none of his children are mentioned.

Are you referring to the names given in reply #2? That is an extract from the Probate Calendar. It lists the people charged with the administration of the estate. It does not list the people who benefited from the will. To find that information you will need to purchase a copy of the will -- see my reply #4 above.
Sorry i didn't engage my brain before i answered!  :P 
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Saturday 23 July 16 16:21 BST (UK)
Me again,
Can anyone see if they can find his 2 sisters after the 1881 census?
Jane Elizabeth Milne b 1854 Strathmiglo
Jessica/Jessie Milne b 1856 Strathmiglo though it appears she was baptised Janet.
Out of the 7 siblings Alexander was the only one to marry.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 23 July 16 18:48 BST (UK)
Hi there is a death for a Jane Elizabeth Milne late of 8 Pitcnllen Crescent Perth sometime of Strathmiglo died 17/11/1947 ...This is in the Perth and Scotland Index Cards you could check it out for a death on Scotland's People
Rosie
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Millmoor on Saturday 23 July 16 19:07 BST (UK)
The following wills may be of interest

Isabella Brown Milne of 8 Pitcullen Crescent Perth d 13 April 1935 Confirmation to Jane Elizabeth Milne of 8 Pitcullen Crescent
Christina Wylie Milne of 8 Pitcullen Crescent Perth d 11 Feb 1827 Confirmation to Isabella Brown Milne of 8 Pitcullen Cres
Rev Charles Milne d 23 Jan 1891 at Perth Confirmation to Christina Wylie Milne and Isabella Brown Milne of 51 Balhousie Street Perth and Jane Elizabeth Milne, residing in France or elsewhere abroad, his daughters.( His will was also sealed in London). If you have not seen it you should be able to download from Scotland's People.

William
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 23 July 16 19:12 BST (UK)
Jane Elizabeth Milne born 1853-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYC1-3JL
Janet Milne born 1856-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYRV-PX9
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 23 July 16 19:21 BST (UK)
As William has posted the probate record for the father Charles Milne there is no mention of the daughter Janet b 1856
Rosie
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 23 July 16 19:24 BST (UK)
As William has posted the probate record for the father Charles Milne there is no mention of the daughter Janet b 1856
Rosie

Which only mean that she didn't apply to administer the father's estate.
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 23 July 16 19:38 BST (UK)
Jessie Milne White Plains USA formerly of 8,Pitcullen Crescent died 22/7/1930
Rosie
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Millmoor on Saturday 23 July 16 20:18 BST (UK)
Just to say that there are a number of electoral rolls for Perthshire on Ancestry. There is a Jane E Milne at 8 Pitcullen Cres for those from 1928 onwards.

William
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Saturday 23 July 16 20:30 BST (UK)
Jessie Milne White Plains USA formerly of 8,Pitcullen Crescent died 22/7/1930
Rosie

Thank you, where did you find this?
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Saturday 23 July 16 20:34 BST (UK)
Just cause i'm nosey i googled the address.
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/40445896#KSZ8OuZlIABvbeFj.97

I wonder wonder why Jessie/Janet doesn't get mentioned?
She was with the family on the 1861/71/81 census returns.
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Saturday 23 July 16 20:49 BST (UK)
The following wills may be of interest

Isabella Brown Milne of 8 Pitcullen Crescent Perth d 13 April 1935 Confirmation to Jane Elizabeth Milne of 8 Pitcullen Crescent
Christina Wylie Milne of 8 Pitcullen Crescent Perth d 11 Feb 1827 Confirmation to Isabella Brown Milne of 8 Pitcullen Cres
Rev Charles Milne d 23 Jan 1891 at Perth Confirmation to Christina Wylie Milne and Isabella Brown Milne of 51 Balhousie Street Perth and Jane Elizabeth Milne, residing in France or elsewhere abroad, his daughters.( His will was also sealed in London). If you have not seen it you should be able to download from Scotland's People.

William
Thank you, i don't have credits for Scotland's people.
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Saturday 23 July 16 21:28 BST (UK)
Jessie Milne White Plains USA formerly of 8,Pitcullen Crescent died 22/7/1930
Rosie
Found it, a newspaper article, it says widow of A Milne & sister of the Misses Milne.
found them on the 1905 US census.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6DM3-PPF?i=14&wc=M8SV-7ZS%3A42718401%2C42972501%2C42976001%3Fcc%3D1463113&cc=1463113
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 23 July 16 21:55 BST (UK)
The Bronxville Review, 20 May 1893: Mrs. William Russell Silvers Mrs. Christella Milne Silvers was found dead of heart failure in her apartment at the Yorkshire Wednesday morning. Widow of William Russell Silvers, Mrs. Silvers had been a resident or Bronxville for the past 12 years. She was a daughter of Alexander and Jessie Milne of Cranberry, N. J. Surviving are two children, John Alexander and Jessie Milne Silvers, and a brother, Alexander Milne of Youngstown, Ohio. Funeral services were conducted by the Rev. J. A. McDonald of Christ Church Friday morning at the apartment and burial was made in the Presbyterian Cemetery, Cranberry, N.J.
http://news.hrvh.org/veridian/cgi-bin/senylrc?a=d&d=bronxrev19330520.1.13

Scroll down page for details of William Russell Silvers & family-
http://www.conovergenealogy.com/connet/connet-o/p4711.htm
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 23 July 16 22:04 BST (UK)
1900 census- Jessie Milne born Feb.1856 Scotland, to U.S. 1884, etc.:
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSP4-KDH
1910 census- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M547-1JL
1920 census- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MV3D-6Z4
1925 census- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9YX-VXV
1930 census- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4GP-GL6

Christella Milne married 1912- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MT-KJJD

Children of Alexander Milne & Jessie Black Milne-
   son (1888)- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W3D-HTY
   son (1891) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W99-YKM

Death- Alexander Milne- mother Jessie Black- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X6Q6-3ML
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 23 July 16 22:07 BST (UK)
Passport application (1920) Jessie Milne born 5 Feb.1856 Edenshead, Fifeshire- be sure to . and following page (photo):
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV5B-CMWX
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 23 July 16 22:23 BST (UK)
N.Y. Evening Post, Monday, August 29, 1887 - August 19 (Riverhead) Edmeshead, Scotland, Rev Chas Milne, father of bride, Alex. Milne to NY to Jessie Black Milne

Green-Wood Cemetery, N.Y.- Lot 23632
Eliza A. Milne buried 25 Oct.1881
Mary J. Milne buried 15 Feb.1882
grave 3: Alexander Milne buried 3 Aug.1915
grave 4: Jessie Black Milne buried 24 July 1930
   http://www.green-wood.com/burial_results/index.php?action=S

Are you interested in more details about Alexander Milne in N.Y.?
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: Alders on Saturday 23 July 16 22:42 BST (UK)
N.Y. Evening Post, Monday, August 29, 1887 - August 19 (Riverhead) Edmeshead, Scotland, Rev Chas Milne, father of bride, Alex. Milne to NY to Jessie Black Milne

Green-Wood Cemetery, N.Y.- Lot 23632
Eliza A. Milne buried 25 Oct.1881
Mary J. Milne buried 15 Feb.1882
grave 3: Alexander Milne buried 3 Aug.1915
grave 4: Jessie Black Milne buried 24 July 1930
   http://www.green-wood.com/burial_results/index.php?action=S

Are you interested in more details about Alexander Milne in N.Y.?
Thank you, this is amazing. I was really hoping that by searching out the girls it could possibly lead me to info on their brother Alexander Milne in Kobe Japan, but it looks like that side was cut off after he moved to Japan.
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 23 July 16 22:46 BST (UK)
Green-Wood Cemetery, N.Y.- Lot 23632
Eliza A. Milne buried 25 Oct.1881
Mary J. Milne buried 15 Feb.1882
grave 3: Alexander Milne buried 3 Aug.1915
grave 4: Jessie Black Milne buried 24 July 1930
   http://www.green-wood.com/burial_results/index.php?action=S

Eliza Agnes Milne born 1853 England, died 22 Oct.1881, parents- Alexander & Ruth
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W32-TG6
Mary Jane Milne born 1838 England, died 13 Feb.1882 (was she Alexander's 2nd wife?)
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W35-H2W
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 23 July 16 22:57 BST (UK)
Lots of article online about Alexander & Jessie Milne, his business interests, etc.- here are just a few examples:
http://fultonhistory.com/
obituary N.Y. Herald, 2 Aug.1915 (Alexander born Montrose, Scotland, to U.S. 1869)
lots of golfing articles
obituary Yonkers Statesman, 3 Aug.1915
longest obituary Eastern State Journal, 7 Aug.1915
value of estate Dobbs Ferry Register, 28 Jan.1916

1880 census- N.Y.: Alexander Milne, wife Mary J., children Eliza A. & Jane
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ6Z-NSX
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 24 July 16 12:02 BST (UK)
Wow aghadowey you have been busy  ;D ;D
Rosie
Title: Re: Alexander Milne
Post by: RJ137 on Wednesday 13 September 17 18:15 BST (UK)

Children of Alexander Milne & Jessie Black Milne-
   son (1888)- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W3D-HTY
   son (1891) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W99-YKM

Death- Alexander Milne- mother Jessie Black- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X6Q6-3ML


Alexander Milne- Obit

Youngstown Vindicator
Youngstown, Ohio
8 Spet. 1933
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