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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: Pennines on Friday 15 July 16 18:35 BST (UK)
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I have never needed any certificates from Northern Ireland before - but I am trying to help a friend with her Belfast ancestry.
Looking at the Groni website I am told that to order a birth certificate the parents names, including the mother's maiden name are needed -- the info on the Groni site states;
"Birth certificates are available from 1864 to present. You can order a birth certificate online from the General Register Office Northern Ireland (GRONI). You will need a credit or debit card to use this service.
Before you start
You can order a birth or a commemorative birth certificate online. You will need a credit or debit card and the following information:
full name of person whose birth certificate is required
date and place of birth (district or street and town)
names of parents (including mother's maiden name)
mother's address at time of birth
The General Register Office cannot issue a certificate if you have not given the full details needed when you order."
Surely this cannot be necessary -- the historical birth certificate is being requested to find out the names of the parents. Am I misunderstanding something please?
Any help would be really appreciated.
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If it's a birth over 100 years old then you just need to register, purchase a few credits, look up the item in the index then view the certificate online.
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Thank you so much for your very prompt reply Aghadowey -- unfortunately the birth is not 100 years ago. It's 1919 in Belfast. We have the details from the Civil Reg Index --but don't know the parents names.
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I have just realised the quote about ordering certificates was from the Proni website.
Having looked at Groni (it would be better if I knew my alphabet!) -- I suppose we could try leaving parents names blank and insert the details from the Civil Reg Index in the box entitled 'Additional information to support your application'.
We'll try that anyway.
Thank you.
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If it's less than 100 years old then it's not an historical birth certificate. Do you have the registration district and mother's maiden name? if so, have you tried to use the form with the details you have and including a note in the message box that this is all the information you have?
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Go to https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk, create an account and enter the surname you are looking for. If you have a general year to work with very good, otherwise you will have to work in four year blocks. I have obtained information around 1870, also death records in the 1940s.
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Go to https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk, create an account and enter the surname you are looking for. If you have a general year to work with very good, otherwise you will have to work in four year blocks. I have obtained information around 1870, also death records in the 1940s.
Births less than 100 years old cannot be viewed online- the date restrictions for marriages in 75 years and deaths 50 years. Both the records you mention are available online but Pennines was looking for a birth less than 100 years old.
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Lismurn -- thank you for replying to my query.
As Aghadowey has said, the time restrictions which apply to on line views prevented access to the certificates in question. However as an update - the friend I was helping visited Belfast and went along to Proni. He received some amazing assistance from the helpful staff there and was able to progress his research.
Thank you again.
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However as an update - the friend I was helping visited Belfast and went along to Proni. He received some amazing assistance from the helpful staff there and was able to progress his research.
Thank you again.
Glad to hear some progress was made in the search :)
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Thank you Aghadowey. You were amazingly helpful with this entire query.
I just wish you could have seen his face when he came back from Belfast. You couldn't stop him talking about it -- he was 'over the moon' as they say.
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Ireland geanology i.e is quite useful, in that generally you can view the certificate in full for N. Ireland pre partition using the civil records as well as the rest of ireland
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Thank you ards g
Yes www.irishgenealogy.ie is wonderful -- and amazingly it's free! It was a really good pre-Christmas present from Ireland!