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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: smallnest on Tuesday 12 July 16 21:38 BST (UK)
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This is my first inquiry, so I apologize if I am in the wrong pew!
I am seeking information about the family of my great great grandfather SOLOMON MYLNE (sometimes shown as MILLEN) who was born in Limavady in 3 December 1821 and whose family seems to have strong connections to Limavady/Carnet/Garvagh and Balteagh Presbyterian Church.
His parents were ROBERT MYLNE/MILLEN and MARY CLYDE (both born in Scotland between 1780 and 1790 I think), who married on 25 May 1811 at 1st Garvagh Presbyterian Church.
I have oral history indicating that Solomon his early education was at the "common school of the district" after which he was passed on to a "private classical school in Limavady" and later attended Presbyterian College in Belfast approximately 1839–1843 and Belfast College Divinity Hall 1843-1846. He received a Certificate of Arts and Divinity. He later emigrated to Canada and then retired in the USA.
I also believe that Solomon had a brother named SAMUEL MYLNE/MILLEN who married Elizabeth Adams (daughter of John Adams). They had a son named ROBERT CLYDE MILLEN and we have learned that at his death he left the majority of his estate to Balteagh Presbyterian Church.
I was unable to locate telephone or email contact information for the Balteagh Presbyterian church
I understand that the records of Balteagh Presbyterian Church are not available through PRONI and I am very interested in obtaining confirmation of any information regarding SOLOMON MYLNE/MILLEN’s birth/baptism records as well as emigration info/marriage/death/burial records for his parents.
Are there any local historical reference books which might contain information of this type?
Thanks in advance,
Bonnie Mylne Small
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Not sure if there's a connection here but why do you think Mary Clyde was born in Scotland?
Solomon, not that common a name, has been handed down in several generations of the Clyde family who belonged to First Garvagh Presbyterian Church.
Unfortunately, names of parents or a townland aren't listed in the early marriage records. One of the earliest Clydes I have is Thomas Clyde (c1757-1834) from Gortfad (just outside Garvagh) who I believe to be the father of Samuel Clyde of Gortfad. That Samuel had a son Solomon Clyde (c1820-1876), grandsons Solomon Alfred Clyde (1869-1942) and Solomon Clyde (1868-1893), great-grandson Alfred Solomon Clyde (1902-2000).
There is also a lease in Lord Garvagh's papers dated 1800 for John Clyde of Bellruy with two sons mentioned- John (eldest) born c1793 and Samuel born c1795. So, the family have been in the area for quite a while.
PRONI, and Coleraine Library (box #74), do have microfilmed records for Balteagh Presbyterian Church-
Baptisms 1868-1932
Marriages 1845-1936
Communicants 1890-1957
Teasurer's notebooks 1832-1846
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My information about Mary Clyde's birthplace is from oral family history (and therefore likely flawed) - I was told recently that there is a strong contingent of Clydes in Terrydoo and Coleraine but I don't know if that is true or not.
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It's quite a common think here amongst Presbyterian families to say they came from Scotland even if it was a few generations back.
Marriages usually take place in the bride's church and that along with the name Solomon makes me think there could be a connection to Gortfad rather than Limavady area.
You can get an idea of the distribution of the Clydes in 1831 census here (select 1831 & Londonderry then sort results by parish)- for some result each household is listed twice-
Desertoghill & Errigal covers Garvagh area, only 1 household in Coleraine, etc
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
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I have been searching for years for a family called Gibson,in Carrick/Balteagh. I had been told (several times) there was NO Presbyterian church in Balteagh,that if they were Presbyterians (they were) they would have attended Bovevagh Pres church,sometimes known as Scriggan church.
The man I'looking for is Alexander Gibson born c 1833,father William Gibson - mother possibly Martha ???
I know this is no help to Millen/mylne family,but is there Balteagh Pres Church?
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Hi Agnetta,
Yes there is definitely a Balteagh Presbyterian Church in the Foyle Presbytery. It was formed in 1823 by families who had previously worshipped at Drumachose. Scriggan that you mention was dissolved in 1905, with most of its members joining Balteagh. The congregation was united with Bovevagh in 1974.
Hope this helps
Brown1777
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Brown 1777 - thanks for that. Explains a few things re where they lived, and where weddings and
baptisms took place.
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According to the PRONI guide to church records, they have a copy of Balteagh Presbyterian baptisms for the years 1868-1932 and marriages for 1845-1936. So there don’t appear to be any baptisms for the period you are interested in (c 1833).
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I do not know if it is the same church, but I have visited Balteagh Presbyterian Church in Limavady, Northern Ireland - here is the address:
Balteagh Presbyterian Church
199 Drumsurn Road
Limavady
BT49 0PH
Northern Ireland
Best,
Bonnie
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Elwyn Soutter and smallest - thank you both for info.
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The Presbyterian congregation of Balteagh had been established in 1823 by people originally attached to Drumachose Presbyterian congregation, in the nearby town of Limavady (then known as Newtownlimavady). The petitioners were seeking a share of the Regium Donum Fund, otherwise known as the Royal Bounty.
The petition (1828-1829) from Balteagh is found amongst a bundle of various papers relating to the payment of Regium Donum (NAI: OP1/685/2). It lists approximately 200 Presbyterian families, comprising 1,023 individuals, residing in sixteen townlands lying to the south-east of the town of Limavady. An article about this valuable census substitute can be found in the Irish Genealogist, vol. 13, No. 2, (2011).
1828 petition Balteagh congregation
Robert Millan with wife & children: Joseph, Samuel, Jane, Solomon, Betty were in Carnet townland
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I have been searching for years for a family called Gibson,in Carrick/Balteagh. I had been told (several times) there was NO Presbyterian church in Balteagh,that if they were Presbyterians (they were) they would have attended Bovevagh Pres church,sometimes known as Scriggan church.
The man I'looking for is Alexander Gibson born c 1833,father William Gibson - mother possibly Martha ???
I know this is no help to Millen/mylne family,but is there Balteagh Pres Church?
Are you sure they were from Carrick/Balteagh?
The only William Gibson in Kennaught barony in the 1831 census resided in Ballyness, Dungiven
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246493/007246493_00236.pdf
There were two families residing in the household headed by William Gibson - with 8 males & 3 females present all Presbyterian.
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Gortinanima Thanks for that info. I did know about the 1831 census - that aggravating census with no names.But it did put them in Carrick,and I know they did live there.(They ended up in Caugh,Derrychrier,near Dungiven,but can't pin down year when they went there,but it was before 1910)
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Gortinanima Thanks for that info. I did know about the 1831 census - that aggravating census with no names.But it did put them in Carrick,and I know they did live there.(They ended up in Caugh,Derrychrier,near Dungiven,but can't pin down year when they went there,but it was before 1910)
Have you checked the (free) online Valuation Revision books for Caugh, and Carrick) to see when name was added and scored out from those properties? Books run from printed version of Griffith's Valuation until c1930.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books
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I hadn't (didn't know about them) but I will now. Thank you for info.
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Have a look at the PRONI Historical Maps Viewer.
https://apps.spatialni.gov.uk/PRONIApplication/
If you type ‘Lislane’ in ‘Find address or place’ box and from the dropdown choose Lislane (Balteagh).
Click top right ‘Layer List’ and choose map - OSNI Historical Second Edition (1846-1862).
You will see the Presbyterian Meeting House (Balteagh) and its associated graveyard.
KG
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Balteagh Presbyterian Church is at the junction of the Drumsurn Road and the Ballyleagry Road.
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/balteagh/lislane/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ood/
KG
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Now I know there is definitely a Balteagh Pre'n church, and exactly where it is . Many thanks to all.