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Title: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: ben170292 on Friday 08 July 16 04:01 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am trying to find more information on Mathew Paish's parents, I have the following information.

born about 1803
Baptised 10 Apr 1803 in Cirencester, Gloucestershire
Married Hester (Esther) Garlick  24 Apr 1831 in Cirencester
His Dad is Charles Paish (or Pash)

Mathew and Hester had the following childred
Elizabeth Paish (1837-)
Joseph Paish (1838-1877)
David Paish (1841-)
Hester Paish (1843-)
James Paish (1846-)
Mathew Paish (1851-), I think he married a Hester.

Thanks for any help
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 08 July 16 05:08 BST (UK)
There is this 1851 census:

Charles PAISH 72 Cirencester
Susanna PAISH 72 King Stanley
Eliza PAISH 39 Cirencester
Daniel PAISH 36 Cirencester
Reuben PAISH 29 Cirencester
Eliza PAISH (grand daughter) 6 Witney
Charles (grnad son) 2 Witney

H0107/1968/361
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 08 July 16 05:11 BST (UK)
Charles PAISH married Susanna POULSON 25 May 1802 Stroud, Gloucester

Fathers: Daniel PAISH and Richard POULSON
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 08 July 16 05:13 BST (UK)
Charles PASH baptised 21 May 1780 Cirencester
Father: Daniel PASH

(from familysearch)
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 08 July 16 05:24 BST (UK)
Also 1841 census:
Charles PAISH   60   Basket maker
Susanna PAISH 60
Eliza PAISH       25   Dressmaker
William PAISH   25   carpenter
Daniel PAISH    20
Rueben PAISH  15
Henry AUSTIN  labourer 35    outside county
Richard MOLTY  labourer 35    outside county
Sarah MOLTY                 25 outside county
Wiliam COMPLIN  labourer  25  outside county
Elizabeth COMPLIN         30 outside county

HO107/380/3
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 08 July 16 05:29 BST (UK)
Have you got Matthew in the 1841?

Matthew PAISH  35   Basket maker journeyman
Hester PAISH     30
Jane PAISH         7
Elizabeth PAISH   5
Joseph PAISH      2
Elizabeth GARLICK 65

HO107/380/3
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: ben170292 on Friday 08 July 16 05:34 BST (UK)
Hi maddys52,

Thanks for the information.

I had actually seen the marriage for Charles and Susanna but because the birth of Mathew only listed Charles I thought maybe this wasn't the correct people.

how likely do you think that they are both the parents?

I had seen the 1841 Census also
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 08 July 16 06:07 BST (UK)
I think it's very likely given the census information. Charles married to Susanna is a basket maker, as is Matthew. And birth dates match pretty well. From a quick look, can't see any other Charles PAISH in the area.
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: Capetown on Friday 08 July 16 07:26 BST (UK)
For starters...

Gloucestershire Marriage Index

Charles PAISH of Cirencester married Susanna POULSON by banns at Stroud - 25 May 1802


Edward PAISH married Sarah WYATT at Cirencester - by banns 18 August 1823

James PAISH of Stratton married Miriam CURTIS at Cirencester by banns 10 November 1823
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: Capetown on Friday 08 July 16 07:49 BST (UK)
The Gloucestershire Baptism Index CD starts from 1813 onwards

Cirencester St John the Baptist

parents: Charles (basket maker) & Susanna

Daniel PAISH - baptised 6 November 1814 - born 5 October 1814
David PAISH - baptised 2 May 1819 - born 16 January 1819
Rueben PAISH - baptised 26 December 1821 - born 22 October 1821
William PASH - baptised 14 February 1813 - born 5 November 1812


Matthew PAISH married Hester GARLICK at Cirencester by banns - 24 April 1831


at had these children baptised at Cirencester (up to 1837)

Frederic - baptised 1 April 1832 born 14 January 1832
Jane - baptised 6 July 1834 - born 18 May 1834
Elizabeth - baptised - 7 August 1836 - born 29 May 1836

Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: ben170292 on Friday 08 July 16 08:07 BST (UK)
Thanks Capetown,

Where would someone get one of these CDs? they seem to have quite a bit of information.
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: Capetown on Friday 08 July 16 08:12 BST (UK)

These are available from the Gloucestershire Family History Society - some can be downloaded

these include (and what I've purchased)

Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1800-1837
Gloucestershire Burial Index from 1813
Gloucestershire Baptism Index from 1813
Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1754-1799



Also available on Ancestry - which can be used free at your local UK library


Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: ben170292 on Friday 08 July 16 08:25 BST (UK)
Thanks, I will have a look at that site

do you think this could be Charles (1780-) parents marriage?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVKX-HQZ
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: Capetown on Friday 08 July 16 08:33 BST (UK)
Had a very quick look at my burial index (57 PAISH burials after 1813 - 9 at Stratton)

Daniel PAISH aged 90 was buried at Stratton - 18 February 1841 - earlier reply gave a marriage of James PAISH at Cirencester from Stratton 1823

and

Ann PAISH aged 85 of Cirencester was buried at Stratton - 1 August 1841


1841 Census
Cirencester

MERCHANT

Thomas - 40-44
Herriett - 35-39
Rebecca - 7
Sarah - 9 months
Ann PAISH - 85-89
Ann ARKEL - 55-59
Mary JONES - 35-39
Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: ben170292 on Friday 08 July 16 15:25 BST (UK)
Are you able to see who the mother of Susanna Poulson is?
there are 2 marriages in the same area and a similar time

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLSS-TQ2

and

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLSS-TLQ

Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: Capetown on Friday 08 July 16 19:03 BST (UK)
1850 Slaters Directory for Cirencester

Basket & Sieve Makers
PAISH, Charles & Sons (Wireworkers) Gloucester Street

also on the net

Charles PAISH - ran the Duke of York Gloucester Street, Cirencester, 1847 and 1849 - which is No. 53 and photograph on the Pub site.

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Looking at the Gloucestershire Records Office Genealogical Database

There is an Overseers Report for a Richard POULSON of Stroud 1795.

One for Susannah PAISH 1822 - Bisley
There is a George PAISH aged 10m - buried at Bisley - 27 February 1825 - residence: Grays.

Just one PAISH buried at Bisley - son of George & Susanna PAISH - christened 9 May 1824


and and Overseers report for Charles PAISH - basketmaker, Cirencester

Worth checking for other info....





? Where there any witnesses to the marriage of Charles & Susanna in 1802 - always useful to see family groups.

Looking at the Forest of Dean Family History Records i.e. Gloucestershire Marriage Allegations etc.

Daniel POULSON 27 February 1802 aged 23, Bachelor occupation: Sheerman of Kingstanley married Deborah IRELAND aged 23 single woman by Licence at Kingstanley

On the 19 July 1824 at Stroud ....

Deborah POULSON widow - married James SMITH - by banns.


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Did go through the names of the children of Charles & Susanna - but as Charles' father was Daniel - it's difficult to know if there is any connection.


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Gloucestershire Burial Index from 1813 at Kings Stanley

Mary POULSON aged 82 of Stanley End 19 January 1836
Thomas POULSTON aged 94 - 9 November 1851



Title: Re: Mathew Paish Parents
Post by: Capetown on Monday 11 July 16 12:39 BST (UK)
From Ancestry.

Charles PAISH married Susanna POULSON at Stroud - 25 May 1802

witnesses: Jamy ALEXANDER and (Stephen HOWELL married Anne Johnson SELBY - 10 April 1785)

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James ALEXANDER married Mary PASH at Cirencester 2 August 1795

children:

Charlotte - 7 August 1796 Cirencester

married Richard MERCHANT 24 July 1814 by Licence at Cirencester

and had a Son: Edwin ALEXANDER MERCHANT christened at Cirencester : 19 June 1818 - born 10 February 1818.



George - 14 January 1798 and 26 January 1800
(married Catherine FLETCHER at Cirencester 12 December 1824)

Up to 1837 - George (labourer) & Catherine ALEXANDER - had 3 children christened at Cirencester

Charlotte - born 19 December 1827 and christened 23 March 1818
Charles - born 17 November 1832 and christened 9 December 1832
George - born 30 August 1835 and christened 4 October 1835

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1841 Census : Cirencester

James ALEXANDER - 65 occupation Turner - born in County
Mary ALEXANDER - 65 - born in County

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Gloucestershire Burial Index CD

Cirencester

James ALEXANDER - 5 September 1841 - aged 64 address: Castle Street
Mary ALEXANDER - 23 April 1854 - aged 76 address: Castle Street


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Matthew PAISH married Hester (Esther) GARLICK - 24 April 1831 Cirencester
Curate: H A PYE - Perpetual Curate

witnesses: John GARLICK and Eliza PAISH


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Marriage at Cirencester: Eliza PAISH - William HIX - 8 June 1833 Cirencester


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Family Search

Christenings at Cirencester

father: Charles

Matthew PASH - 10 April 1803
AMY PASH - 27 May 1806
Eliza PASH - 6 March 1808