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Title: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: MaureenHB on Saturday 02 July 16 14:40 BST (UK)
Any help,please, finding my grandfather, George Henry Wood  living in Selby Yorkshire. I have this on his marriage cert in 1917." 397735 Sapper Royal Engineers Foreman on Railway" but I have been unable to find an army record for that number. Thank you.
Marilyn
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 02 July 16 14:46 BST (UK)
Roughly 70 percent of service Records were lost in a fire in WW2, so thus may well be the realm you are unable to find them. Alternatively, if he remained in the army after 1920 the records will still be held by the MOD.


Jebber
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: ScouseBoy on Saturday 02 July 16 14:51 BST (UK)
Did he survive the war do you know?

He possibly worked on the railways before the war
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: MaureenHB on Saturday 02 July 16 17:11 BST (UK)
Thank you both, I know he fathered a child in 1920 but that's all.
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: Ellenmai on Saturday 02 July 16 17:40 BST (UK)
Do you know what year he was born? I have found 1 possible born 1899
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: jim1 on Saturday 02 July 16 17:55 BST (UK)
There's no MIC for him so didn't serve overseas.
Foreman on the railway must be what he did prior to joining.
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: Jebber on Saturday 02 July 16 20:58 BST (UK)
There's no MIC for him so didn't serve overseas.
Foreman on the railway must be what he did prior to joining.

They also maintained railways during WW1, to enable supplies to get through.

Jebber
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: jim1 on Saturday 02 July 16 21:15 BST (UK)
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They also maintained railways during WW1, to enable supplies to get through.
That would still be classed as service in a theatre of war so he would have qualified.
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 03 July 16 08:07 BST (UK)
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397735 Sapper Royal Engineers


Might that be 197735? http://goo.gl/4fT3jq


Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: MaureenHB on Sunday 03 July 16 08:37 BST (UK)
Wow, ShaunJ, yes I think that may be him! Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: mmm45 on Sunday 03 July 16 08:43 BST (UK)
The WR prefix is for the waterways and railways branch of Royal Engineers so looking good.

Ady
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 03 July 16 11:57 BST (UK)
Well done Shaun
His 15 Star Roll gives a qualifying date of 28/8/15 under 10197 Pte. 6th. Lincs. Regt. theatre 2A
(Greek Macedonia, Serbia, Bulgaria and European Turkey).
This is what the Long, Long Trail says:

6th (Service) Battalion
 Formed at Lincoln in August 1914 as part of K1 and came under command of 33rd Brigade in 11th (Northern) Division.
 Moved to Gallipoli in July 1915. Landed at Suvla Bay 7 August 1915. Went to Egypt in January 1916 and thence to France in July 1916.
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: MaureenHB on Monday 04 July 16 16:13 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help, that's amazing. How do I go about getting his service record now? I am not sure which of those numbers to look under and nothing is coming up on Ancestry.
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: Ellenmai on Monday 04 July 16 16:56 BST (UK)
The regimental numbers sometimes don't seem to help much when searching on Ancestry. It helps if you have their date of birth and wife's name, or if single next of kin. If you know them I could take a look on Find My Past for you.
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: MaureenHB on Monday 04 July 16 17:31 BST (UK)
Thank you Ellenmai, George married Ethel Jessie Mary Bunn on the 13th November 1917. His birth year working back from that would have been 1889 but I don't know exact date of birth I'm afraid. His address on the marriage cert is Westfield avenue, Selby.
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 04 July 16 17:44 BST (UK)
It looks like his army records haven't survived (some 60% were destroyed through enemy action in 1940).
Title: Re: Help finding Sapper Royal Engineers
Post by: jim1 on Monday 04 July 16 18:14 BST (UK)
Looking at Lincs. no's. around his all of the men joined in 1914.
This seems to back that up.
Men joining the Lincs. service battalions were given numbers from the same series that had been in use by the regular battalions.

c9763 to 107**
Issue of these numbers dates to August 1914 and therefore, by definition, mostly to men joining the 6th Battalion.