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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Lazarus on Wednesday 29 June 16 23:19 BST (UK)
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I am hoping to find a passenger list for Thomas Knight and his wife Lucy ( Higman) arriving Brisbane C1861-1863.
They had married 3 Oct 1861 Roche and are listed on the 1861 Census for St Dennis.
Whilst they moved around Australia , their first childre were born Queensland. They may have lived Ipswich.
The children were:John Daniel Knight b10 Jul1863 , Anna Jane Knight b6 Mar 1865 , Maria Knight b13 Feb 1867.
Any help greatly appreciated.
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Here are the Queensland births and death:
1863 C653 John Daniel Knight Thomas Lucy Higman
1865 C805 Anna Jane Knight Thomas Lucy Higman
1867 C1192 Maria Knight Thomas Lucy Higman
DEATH
1865 C328 John Daniel Knight Thomas Knight Lucy Higman
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They don't appear in the assisted immigration here:
http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/Indexes/Immigration/Pages/Default.aspx
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Another site has three additional children: Mary Ann, Wallace both born in Seymore VIC 1872 and 1874 and Martha born in SA 1878.
Added: Thomas Henry Knight born 4 Feb 1869 District Hartley NSW (11768/1869)
Jamjar
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Edward Albert LONGSTAFF.
Born: 1878 Maldon, Victoria.
Died: 1915 Williamstown, Victoria, aged 37 years.
Married: Martha KNIGHT.
Year: 1902.
Place: Victoria.
Martha died 1967 Yarr, Victoria, aged 88 years.
Parents named as Thomas KNIGHT and Lucy HIGMAN.
Birth note.
Martha was born 15 October 1878, Thebarton, South Australia.
Parents named as Thomas KNIGHT and Lucy HIGMAN.
Jamjar
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Hi,
There is also the following from http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/search+your+family+history/:
KNIGHT Ephraim
Death
KNIGHT Thomas
Lucy (Higman)
Reg. year 1952 Reg. no13210
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
1876
KNIGHT Ephraim
Thomas KNIGHT
Lucy HIGMAN Adelaide 170/297
Leanne
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Hi,
I wonder if this is connected:
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
1890
162/994
POINTON Robert
HIGMAN Lucy
District Daly
Leanne
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Lazarus, do you have all the family history and only want to find when they came to Australia?
Jamjar
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I'm thinking that as they married in October they most likely wouldn't have arrived in Australia before January 1862.
Lucy could have been preggers during the voyage so, possibly looking for the voyage between January1862 and July 1863.
Jamjar
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Thank you Ruskie, Ennael and Jamjar
I can confirm that you have identified the family and aware that other children were born Seymore Vic. Hartley NSW , and Thebarton South Australia.
Martha ( Knight ) Longstaff born Thebarton. was the grandmother of my late wife.
I think Lucy , her mother died following birth of Martha , who was then reared by Grace Knight a sister of Lucy who had married Robert Grigg.
I assume Thomas and Lucy probably landed Queensland and initially lived Ipswich , but possible they arrived elsewhere.
They do not appear to be listed on the site cited by Ruskie.
Robert Grigg and Grace ( Knight ) arrived Port Adelaide 16 Dec 1856 on "Monsoon".
Martha Knight married Edward Albert Longstaff. She died Yarraville Victoria.
All I need now is the passenger list for Thomas and Lucy.
??? Quite possible first child on the way.
Sorry if any confusion.
Rex
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I haven't been able to locate their arrival and have run out of options.
Is there not a way to find them leaving from the UK end?
Jamjar
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The Monsoon arrived 17 March 1857, having left the UK in December 1856.
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/monsoon1857.shtml
Grace was a sister of Thomas, not Lucy, yes?
Jamjar
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Thanks Jamar
I am trying to come up with other ideas.
I know they married 1861 and were living with the widowed ( twice) mother of Thomas at the 1861 Census which was earlier that same year.
I can't find them again until a son John Daniel is born Queensland 10 Jul 1863. They must have lived Ipswich for a few years.
Should they appear on Electoral Rolls? Perhaps only if they owned property.
? that wouldn't indicate when and where they arrived Australia.
Rex
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Sorry Jamjar.
Grace was a sister of Thomas Knight not Lucy. My mistake.
Did I get the arrival date for Robert and Grace Grigg slightly wrong?
They reared Martha Knight b1878 Thebarton South Australia.
Rex
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I'm curious, Rex, what was Thomas' occupation that allowed him to moved about so far and often?
The simply had the departure date for the ship and not the arrival date in SA.
Why do you think they possibly lived in Ipswich?
Jamjar
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Jamjar
I think he was a labourer/miner but will refer to my records.
Again one of the birth or death records must have mentioned Ipswich.
I will check.
His death registration might mention how long in Australia , assuming the informant knew.
Rex
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According to the death registration of Martha b1788 d1967, her father was a stonemason.
She was 88 when she died and it states she was 6 years in South Australia and 82 years in Victoria.
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Ah, I'm sure he found work easily.
Jamjar.
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Hi,
There is this index which is not on line or available at the Qld State Archives. The index was put together by volunteers from the Queensland Family History Society from records held at the Commonwealth Archives in Brisbane.
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/6813034
I can check next time I'm visiting the society but in the meantime maybe a chatter might be able to check the CD if they were visiting the NLA.
Gerry
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Jamjar
I think he was a labourer/miner but will refer to my records.
Again one of the birth or death records must have mentioned Ipswich.
I will check.
His death registration might mention how long in Australia , assuming the informant knew.
Rex
Interesting you say that he was a miner. I recalled that I had been to to Hartley so did a quick search: "However, in the 1860s, kerosene shale was discovered locally which enabled the production, within Australia, of paraffin oil and kerosene. This was quite a boon as most families, in those pre-electricity days, were reliant upon lighting from the cooking fire or, at best, candles. The discovery brought miners and their families and there were soon over 2000 people living in the area with shops, schools, farms and orchards in the area.
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I would appreciate it if someone who has access to that CD can check to see if my Thomas and
Lucy travelled to Queensland from UK.
Their first three children were born Queensland. They may have lived Ipswich at some time.
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Hi,
There is this index which is not on line or available at the Qld State Archives. The index was put together by volunteers from the Queensland Family History Society from records held at the Commonwealth Archives in Brisbane.
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/6813034
I can check next time I'm visiting the society but in the meantime maybe a chatter might be able to check the CD if they were visiting the NLA.
Gerry
Hi.
I checked this index and could not find an entry for Thomas and Lucy Knight.
Gerry
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Thank you for trying Gerry.
Rex