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Title: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: colin12 on Sunday 26 June 16 21:26 BST (UK)
Hi All, looking for a death of the above man, he was born 1903-1905 and was in the merchant navy. his wife Eileen Hill died in Birmingham in 1970,  so he may have died in that area, no idea when, he left the navy in 1958 after which there was no contact. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated
Cheers
Colin
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 26 June 16 23:37 BST (UK)
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Hi All, looking for a death of the above man, he was born 1903-1905

Where?  Freebmd shows 2 possible births - one in 1903 and one in 1905 so which one is he?  Birthyear needed to determine correct death

Have you checked freebmd?  Do you have any info from Eileen's death cert showing whether she was a widow at that time?
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: colin12 on Monday 27 June 16 16:14 BST (UK)
Hi Carole,

He was born in 1905 in Weymouth his wife died 1970 in Birmingham we think she was a widow

Cheers

Colin
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 27 June 16 16:53 BST (UK)
Hi Carole,

He was born in 1905 in Weymouth his wife died 1970 in Birmingham we think she was a widow

Cheers

Colin

You say he left the navy in 1958 and there was no contact after that,do you mean that his wife didn't know where he was,if so how can her family have said that she was a widow when she died in 1970?
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 27 June 16 17:02 BST (UK)
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his wife Eileen Hill died in Birmingham in 1970

There is no Eileen Hill death in 1970 in Birmingham so where did you get that info?

Death registrations prior to 1969 do not show full birthyear - only age at death so if he pre-deceased Eileen it may be difficult to establish his own death date as there are a number of Charles William Hill deaths but none with a third christian name of Henry
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 27 June 16 17:16 BST (UK)
There is also info on a previous thread.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=576623.25

Carol
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: carol8353 on Monday 27 June 16 17:36 BST (UK)
This is suggested to be his marriage.....presumably to Eileen Murphy.

Name:    Charles W H Hill
Date of Registration:    Apr-May-Jun, 1941
Registration district:    Cork, Ireland
Volume:    5
Page Number:    81
FHL Film Number:    101578
Records on Page:    
Name
Charles W H Hill
Ellen Coughlan
Eileen Murphy
Hubert John Olney
Edward Moran
Gertrude Barber
Denis Joseph Conroy
Anne Teresa Walsh
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 27 June 16 17:37 BST (UK)
Thanks for the link Carol

Colin - the main contributor to your post was Nat-London so did you ever confirm for definite that you were both researching the same person?

If so - he married in 1941 in Cork.  If you have his Navy discharge papers - do they show an address?

I still can't find an Eileen Hill death in Birmingham in 1970
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: colin12 on Monday 27 June 16 18:07 BST (UK)
Hi Carole,
Nat and I are related to Charles William Henry Hill, Nat was at the National Archives and obtained his Merchant Navy records, however they do not show and address he left in 1958, the only address is the one in Cork but apparently he did not return to Ireland.
Thanks for everything
Colin
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: seaweed on Monday 27 June 16 18:18 BST (UK)
The records Nat obtained namely his CRS10 and Comno service would not contain his address. As far as I understand his last ship was in 1957 but Nat do's not give a name or official number of the vessel he was discharged from . The crew agreement of the vessel should give his last known address.

see also http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=153842
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 27 June 16 18:20 BST (UK)
What about Eileen's death supposedly in Birmingham 1970?  Where did that info come from - see my earlier replies
Title: Re: Charels William Henry Hill
Post by: colin12 on Monday 27 June 16 19:30 BST (UK)
Have emailed Nat will expect a reply soon, will let you know
Thank you
Colin
Title: Re: Charles William Henry Hill
Post by: colin12 on Wednesday 29 June 16 19:17 BST (UK)
Hi Carole,

Found out that Eileen remarried in 1955, name of Marcysiak and she died in 1970, not sure whether she was divorced fron Charles, will do more investigation
Be in touch soon
Colin
Title: Re: Charles William Henry Hill
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 29 June 16 19:39 BST (UK)
Hi Carole,

Found out that Eileen remarried in 1955, name of Marcysiak and she died in 1970, not sure whether she was divorced fron Charles, will do more investigation
Be in touch soon
Colin
Ahaha that makes more sense- thanks for the update.

Deaths Mar 1970 
 
MARCYSIAK    Eileen    DOB 2 Oct 1922    Birmingham    9c   149