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Apparently in leeds there is a register microfilmed PL/3/7/5.
I am looking for information as to why a john percy crowther was sent to Ontario,aged 10 on the 10 aug 1888 by the leeds board of guardians .He was on the ship Lake Ontario.According to the Canadian archives there should be 2 pages for him.I am interested to know who his parents were and if he was orphaned or abandoned. Without this information I cannot identify him in the census. Any help appreciated.
thank you Jane
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There is an Ontario marriage 7 January 1903 Kent Ontario for John Percy Crowthers born 1878 England. Parents listed as Samuel crowther and Mother Louisa Petty. Spouse was Nora Ann Nevils.
Sandra
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the 1901 Census of Canada - Kent Ontario showed JOhn P Crowther
William Evers 85
Lorene Evers 70
John P Crowther 22 Born England 1878. Imm 1888. labourer.
Sandra
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Possible death - John P Crowther born 1878 England died 13 September 1918 Oxford Ontario. Place of death Woodstock. Place of burial Wheatley Ontario. Occupation Baker. Married. Accident Killed at CPR crossing. Instantaneous. Informant George Dresser.
Sandra
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Possibly under Percy Crowther in 1911 - Halton Ontario
Percy Crowther 33 Born Eng Sept 1877. Imm 1889. Baker.
Nora Crowther 33 Born Ontario.
Elwood Crowther 5 Born Ontario
Arnoly Crowther 3 Born Ontario.
Sandra
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Son John Elwood Neville Crowthers born 22 July 1905 - Kent Ontario - Father John P Crowthers
Mother's name: Nora A Nevilles.
Ellwood crowthers on the 1921 census Essex Ontario with a remarried mother.
Nora Smeson/Imeson 43 Born Ontario. Widowed.
Ellwood Crowther 15
Arnold Crowther 12
Madeline Crowther 4
Nora had married Joseph Imeson 22 September 1920 Essex Ontario. Father John Imeson
Mother Louisa Thayer. Joseph was a widower and Nora a widow.
Sandra
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Nora Ann Imeson born 1878 Romney passed away 3 May 1922 Kent Ontario.
Joseph Imeson born 1877 and aged 44 years - passed away 2 June 1921 Kent Ontario.
Sandra
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1940 US Census shows the son Ellwod Crowthers Apartment 364 93rd Street Kings New York
Elwood Crowther 34 Born Canada. Single. Naturalized. Clerk. Stock Exchange.
Sandra
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Ellwood Neville Crowther - Park View Apartments - Pelham West. NY. Bond Clerk. Born Wheatley Canada 22 July 1905 - Single - declared my intention to become a US Citizen 17 November 1931 Supreme Court Westchester County New York. Immigrated from Windsor Ontario 11 October 1924 - Entering US at Detroit MIchigan.
Affidavit of the witnesses - Victor Esker (Actor) 817 First Avenue New York. Antonni O Brien 817 First Avenue New York.
Dated 8 th April 1936
Passport has photo - cannot attach on Look Up Board - See here...........
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=750979.new#new
Sandra
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The second son was Thomas Arnold Crowthers - 21 September 1908 - Kent Ontario - John Percy Crowther - Mother's name Nora Ann Nevills.
Sandra
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this may be his birth
John Percival Crowther
Born Jul-Aug-Sep 1877
Scarborough Vol 9d, p352
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241 Windsor Avenue Hempstead, Nassau, New York 1940
Thomas Crowther 31 Born Canada. Actuary for Insurance Company.
Naoma Crowther 27 Born NY
John Crowther 4 Born NY
Maida Crowther 12 months ???
Dorothy Lackaye 52 Mother-in-law.
Sandra
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Thomas A Crowther married Naomi W Lackaye 27 June 1933 - Manhattan New York
Certificate Number 13129
Sandra
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Ridgewood, New Jersey, City Directory, 1952/56/58 - Thomas ASrnold Crowther (actuary) and Naoma W Crowther - h 249 Pearshall Ave Ridgewod New Jersey.
Sandra
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Thomas Arnold Crowther - Born Wheatley 21 September 1908 - Canada - Petition for Naturalization - Southern District, New York - 12 August 1935 - wife Naomi Crowther.
Declared intention 21 March 1929 Supreme Court County of Westchester., Marriage 30 June 1933 NY.
Naomi born 7 April 1913 Geneva New York. Entered USA Detroit Michigan 22 July 1925 under the name Thomas Arnold Crowther.
Afidavit of witnesses - Ferdinand K Voehl 1531 Moffitt Ave Hewlett LI NY and Lawrence J O'Brien 1322 - 78 St Brooklyn NY.
Dated 12 August 1935
Sandra
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US Public Records show Naoma W Crowther - 7 April 1913 - 10609 W White Mountain Rd # R, Sun City, AZ, 85351-1811 (1993)
Naoma W. Crowther - 7 April 1913 passed away 26 August 2007 - Last Residence 83713 Boise, Ada, Idaho.
T Crowther - 21 September 1908 passed away March 1981 Last Residence 85351 Sun City, Maricopa, Arizona. SSN issued New York (Before 1951)
Sandra
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thank you sandra,the information you have given me all agrees with the family records. he was sent by leeds board of guardians to guthrie home ,and they settled him in mersea,ontario and he was minitord by them until 1894. trying to find information for pre 1894 in canada and pre 1888 in yorkshire.
I am pleased that your information agrees to mine.
thanks
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I have a suspicion that despite what John's marriage cert says, this is him on the 1881 census. part of my reasoning for this is that I can see that on the same ship as John, also sent by Leeds guardians is a Thomas J Crowther aged 8.
Helena Crowther 26 - married, b Wakefiled
John R. Crowther 3 - b Scarborough[ the image does look like R rather than P]
Thomas J. Crowther 1 - b Wakefield
Address 25 Woodhouse Cliff, Leeds
Ref: RG11, 4530, 87, 27
Helena can be found on 1891 and 1901 - still claiming to be married, but not with a husband or children
This would be the marriage - she's with a Widdop sister in law in 1891, so this would make the father's name correct.
Oct - Dec 1873 Leeds Vol 9b, p779
Samuel Crowther <<<
Eliza Lang
Isaac Pickles
Helena Widdop <<<
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this may be his birth
John Percival Crowther
Born Jul-Aug-Sep 1877
Scarborough Vol 9d, p352
That looks good Mabel.
1881 4530/87/27
Transcribed as John R Crowther with mother Helena and sibling Thomas J.
Sorry - missed your post :)
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Just to complete the 3 rd child - daughter Madolyn Beth Crowther - Madolyn Beth Turffs
- Madolyn Turffs - 21 July 1916 - Kent Ontario passed away October 1998 - Last Residence:
04574 Washington, Knox, Maine.
Sandra
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More on the marriage
27 Dec 1873 Leeds, St Peter
Samuel Crowther, 24, cloth manufacturer of Pudsey
Father - John Crowther, cloth manufacturer
Helena Widdop, 20 of Briggate
Father - Jeremiah Widdop, commercial traveller
i can find Samuel in Pudsey, born Horsforth, up to 1871, but he;s a mystery after that!
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this may be his birth
John Percival Crowther
Born Jul-Aug-Sep 1877
Scarborough Vol 9d, p352
That looks good Mabel.
1881 4530/87/27
Transcribed as John R Crowther with mother Helena and sibling Thomas J.
Sorry - missed your post :)
The parents quoted on the Ontario Marriage were Samuel Crowthers and Louisa Petty ???
Sandra
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If he was taken into care at an early age, he may not remember his mother's name correctly, he's told it incorrectly by the Guardians, he's given the wrong info on the certificate
I wonder - can you find his brother Thomas J Crowther b c1880 in Canada - that might help
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The brother Thomas James Crowthers born 4 June 1880 passed away 24 August 1959 Vancouver British Columbia - father listed as Samuel Crowther and Spouse Margaret Elen Peacock
Informant Elwood Crowthers - 4488 Walden Street Vancouver BC - burial Forest Lawn Cemetery Burnaby BC
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCQW-N7C?i=758&wc=S62C-SP8%3A1069423701%3Fcc%3D1538285&cc=1538285
Sandra
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samuel crowther of Pudsey seems possibly a bit of a slippery character. He's before the courts in 1872 on a posisble charge of forgery - I can't find the result but guess he wasn;t convicted as even in that newspaper report there was discussion on whether the case was strong enough to proceed. Then in 1875 he claims not to be bankrupt when a debtor tries to collect his money, and is charged with perjury as he is later believed not to have the money claimed
suspect he may have left his wife and family and she couldn't bring them up.
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Daughter of Thomas James Crowthers and Margaret Ellen Peacock was Edith Vera (married name Turnbull) born Manitoba 6 April 1909 - passed away aged 77 years - 6 November 1986 - Informant was sister-in-law - Helen Margaret Crowthers - Birch Street Vancouver.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D474-C7W?i=2133&wc=S62S-HZ9%3A1069382301%3Fcc%3D1538285&cc=1538285
Sandra
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Margaret Helen Crowthers wife of Thomas James Crowthers - passed away 3 December 1953 - Vancouver British Columbia - burial Forest Lawn Cemetery Burnaby BC - informant daughter Mrs Edith Turnbull
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLRC-VTZ
Sandra
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1911 Census of Manitoba shows Thomas James Crowthers
Thomas Crothers aged 32 Born England July 1879. Imm 1910
Margret Crothers aged 24 Born Manitoba February 1887.
Elwood Crothers 3 Edith Crothers 2
Chris Harper 27
1916 10, 21, V, Whitehead 12 Brandon Manitoba
Thomas Crothers aged 34
Margaret Crothers aged 29
Elwood Crothers aged 8
Edith Crothers aged 7
Joseph Fidell aged 57
Sandra
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mabel and Sandra you have been busy.almost too much to process.checked canadian library and did not notice other crowther. seems to be his brother. seems so cruel that they were sent to different locations. thank you for all of your help .
Jane
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You're very welcome. The Ontario marriage of John Percival Crowther was handy giving possible parents names.
Sandra
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saw that but got too focused on the mothers name which turned out to be wrong.
thanks again
Jane