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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: cazza59 on Thursday 23 June 16 09:11 BST (UK)
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Just in case you're bored looking for manor houses.
Caz
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Unusual to see a chimney so prominent on a church.
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It looks like a 19th or 20th century addition (with boiler room!) built at right angles to a much smaller and older church. I don't think the planners would allow it these days...
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There are quite a few churches in Wales with the tower separate from the main part of the church; not sure if this is something specific to Wales though. In many cases the towers are considerably older than the churches, the latter having been rebuilt in later years, whilst the towers are dated to the 12th and 13th centuries. The tower on this picture looks to be early, but I suspect the spire was added a lot later. There is speculation that these towers had a dual function in that they were attached to religious sites, but were also used as watch-towers.
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It is rather an odd design. Does make me think that perhaps the church may have been destroyed and rebuilt at some stage and only the tower remained of the original church.
Caz
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I agree, the whole building looks Victorian Early English style, with the tower possibly original. It could be a over-heavy restoration, but the regularity of the windows and roof don't look medieval,
Steve
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I would agree with the tower being much older than the church itself. Unusual set-up with tower that offset but joined to church. Not helping find it though ;D
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Would it be classed as a broach spire?
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Would it be classed as a broach spire?
Not according to the image reproduced here: https://architecturaltravels.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/spire/
It looks more like a needle spire.
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Would it be classed as a broach spire?
Not according to the image reproduced here: https://architecturaltravels.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/spire/
It looks more like a needle spire.
Ah yes, I see.
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Good evening,
The main body of the church and the tower are the same age would be my guess. The chimney, although possibly altered, is also original. Many small churches had a fire place in the local Lord of the Manor's box pew. He would want to keep himself and family warm.
The 2 parts at the side and the piece connecting tower to church have been added at a later date. Not necessarily at the same time. Hence the different window styles.
The octagonal spire will have been added later also.
There are quite a few examples online of churches with separate towers. But alas this is not one that is pictured.
John915
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Towards the top of the tower, offset to the right, is a black spot. I don't think it is a mark on the photo, but why would it be offset and not centralised? (it would worry me that it wasn't in the centre ::))
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Good morning,
I saw that as well, could just be missing stone work or a group of very dark stone. Like the one between the windows at this end.
John915
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Could the dark spot be a hole where there used to be a clock ? Strange to be offset but if it was added at a later date maybe it was to aid maintenance access from a landing in a stair case. :-\
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Anyone know the structural significance of the large projecting stones sticking out of the gable end?
S_L
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Good afternoon,
If you mean those between the windows they are water drips. You will notice a projection above each window to match the arch top. They end at the larger projections which will have a groove coming out to the end. This allows rainwater to be carried out from the wall and windows to prevent staining.
John915
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Thanks John915, those weren't what I was referring to but I've realised I wasn't spotting the upper slope of the buttresses so was mistakenly seeing part of each buttress as a separate block.
S_L
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Thanks so much everyone for their perseverance. Sorry I haven't been around, but still fighting the flu.
Caz
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Get well soon Caz.
S_L
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Get well soon Caz.
S_L
Thanks S_L. I'm getting there, albeit rather slowly. :( :)
Caz
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Bringing this one back from the dead, it looks like the windows in the tower are more like arrow slits, could this mean the tower was repurposed from a ruined castle?
Jennifer
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Good evening,
I think more likely just for ventilation rather than arrows. Plus a little light if there are steps inside.
John915
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This is St. Saviour's Church, Greyabbey in Northern Ireland
https://www.churchofireland.org/find-a-church/parish/12080/greyabbey-st-saviour
Nell
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Good find Nell!
Jan
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Great find Nell ;D Nice to see a long unsolved one bite the dust.
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Fantastic find.
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Brilliant find Nell ;D. We'll have all of the unsolved W.A.I.s wrapped up in no time at this rate.
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Another amazing find! :o :o So good! Thanks Nell, brilliant work!
So happy these places still exist.
Caz