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Title: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: harrisj on Monday 20 June 16 13:19 BST (UK)

In a Glasgow Poor law application circa 1920 James Beattie is referred to as dying in war service for Scottis Rifles.. It goes onto say he died in Nov 1916 - bit doesnt give location.

Although he was born James Butti on 1875, Glasgow and lived in with his partner in Glasgow until his death. They had no children. They lived in Cowlairs/Possipark district of Glasgow.

I searched SP and the CWGC and found nothing - any other suggestions or have I missed something. I did find hos birth and entry in 1911 census for Glasgow but no death!

Any comments please. Thanks

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: t mo on Monday 20 June 16 14:34 BST (UK)

there is this ww1 death on cwgc  for a joseph beattie 9th bn cameronians [ Scottish rifles ] private army no 11473  died 25 / 9 /1915  loos memorial panel nos 57-59  pas de Calais .
regards
trevor

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: harrisj on Monday 20 June 16 14:42 BST (UK)

Hi Trevor

Thank you for the post. That's not him. He is definately named James. I found the entry for Joseph when searching CWGC.

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: isobelw on Monday 20 June 16 15:09 BST (UK)

There is an entry for a Jas Beattie in the Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects (Ancestry). He was a private (no 9262) in the 2/5th Scottish Rifles. The entry indicates 'disch'd, died since'. There is just a line drawn through in the column showing persons to whom payment made ( normally this lists widow and/ or other dependants). The entry also bears the words 'see misc 2426' ( not sur to what this refers).
Isobel

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: harrisj on Monday 20 June 16 15:42 BST (UK)

thanks Isobel

I wonder if I should post your reply in the armed forces section.. maybe someone with military knowledge could help?

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: t mo on Monday 20 June 16 16:40 BST (UK)

just to say no entry for a james beattie in Scottish rifles with that amy no in military records on FindMyPast
regards
trevor
ps sorry for my error with earlier post

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: harrisj on Monday 20 June 16 16:48 BST (UK)

cheers Trevor... no problem with earlier post... thanks

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: isobelw on Monday 20 June 16 17:10 BST (UK)

A James Beattie of the right age died in Oldham in 1916.
Isobel

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: harrisj on Monday 20 June 16 17:17 BST (UK)

Interesting... I suspect though he spent most of his life in Glasgow. However, I suppose he could have been elsewhere with army!

I expect he is listed in the Scottish death records under Beattie or something like it. But his birth name is definately Butti.

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: t mo on Monday 20 June 16 17:19 BST (UK)

what im wondering is could this be james death reg born 1875 died apr-jun 1916 Oldham lancs  vol 8d page 823 age 41 only if james died of wounds he could have been hospitalized when he died and as there were several hospitals used during ww1 in Oldham , just a thought ! , the above was the only death I could find that fits year of birth and death .
regards
trevor
ps isobel beat me to it hey ho

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: harrisj on Monday 20 June 16 17:30 BST (UK)

of course the Effects register Isobel mentioned must mean he was killed?

Title: Re: James Butti or Beattie
Post by: harrisj on Tuesday 21 June 16 09:18 BST (UK)

thanks for your help. Spoke to a relative last night. It turns out this guy is not family.I've decided not to do anymore research on it.