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Title: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: safecontractor on Sunday 19 June 16 17:27 BST (UK)
Looking to find my Aunt who I have never been able to trace ... only scanty information :

Lilian Wood .. born 1896 approximately .. at "The Willows", Poundswick, Northern Etchells, Cheadle, Cheshire .... then possibly at Gib Hill, Shrigley Park, Bollington, Macclesfield in 1919 & 12 Park Street, Bollington. Macclesfield in 1920.

She married James W Hewitt in 1914 and lived at 78, Church Road, Gatley in 1920..... thereafter no more information.

James was killed on the Somme in 1918,( remembered on the memorial at Gatley Green) along with Lilian's brothers, Harold and Ernest, all within 6 weeks and 25 miles of each other in France.

All were my Uncles and my Father, John, was much younger, missed WW1, survived WW2, and died in 1980. Have traced and visited all the graves in N. France.... but Lilian ??????

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards Safecontractor
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 19 June 16 18:08 BST (UK)
The parish of Cheadle was in the Registration District of Stockport.
The parish of Northenden Etchells was in the Registration District of Altrincham.
So, these entries from FreeBMD look possibles?

September qtr 1895
Altrincham Registration District     vol 8a, page 194

Wood, Lilian


December qtr 1895
Stockport Registration District     vol 8a, page 2

Wood, Lilian Phylis


From GenUKI:
Northen Etchells (or Northenden Etchells) was a township in the ancient parishes of Northenden and Stockport, Bucklow hundred (SJ 8289), which became a civil parish in 1866.
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 19 June 16 18:16 BST (UK)
Have you looked for Lilian  and possible son James W Hewitt born  Dec Qtr 1914   Stockport 8a 192 (mother's maiden name Wood)  on the FindMyPast 1939 Register??

Kay
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: safecontractor on Monday 20 June 16 10:15 BST (UK)
Thanks for those ... most of the links I have gone through to date without success ... NB Lilian was married to J W Hewitt ... he was not her son ...... I have a suspicion that she was buried / died in the Stockport area and it's that info I seek.

Regards
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: avm228 on Monday 20 June 16 10:35 BST (UK)
Thanks for those ... most of the links I have gone through to date without success ... NB Lilian was married to J W Hewitt ... he was not her son ...... I have a suspicion that she was buried / died in the Stockport area and it's that info I seek.

Regards

Kay is telling you there is a possible son of Lilian's marriage and has given you details of his birth registration.  Have you looked in the 1939 Register?
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: Jebber on Monday 20 June 16 11:02 BST (UK)
I agree that you need to look at the 1939 register, don't dismiss the birth of a son James in 1914. Look for a widowed Lilian born 19 July 1895 with her son in Stockport.

Jebber
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: safecontractor on Monday 20 June 16 13:26 BST (UK)
Apologies to Kay ... misunderstood her posting.

Thanks
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 June 16 15:05 BST (UK)
My fault - it was poorly expressed  :)

If the birth date for Lilian that Jebber mentioned ( 19 July 1895) is correct then this death might be  worth looking at - Lilian Hewitt  Birth 19 July 1894  Death March 1976 Vol 6 Page 1351 - High Peak, Derbyshire. The day and month is the same although the year is one out.

Kay
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: dcbnwh on Monday 20 June 16 15:53 BST (UK)
There is a death that matches James the son - James William Hewitt, Q3 1998 in St Austell District.

David

P.S. Lilian appears on the Electoral Register in Gatley from 1919-1931
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: safecontractor on Tuesday 21 June 16 17:25 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone ... going to check out on FindmyPast at local library this week.

Regards Safecontractor
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: safecontractor on Thursday 30 June 16 09:51 BST (UK)
Still struggling, I'm afraid .... checked out your good information on FindmyPast but (probably my fault) can't see any additional new info., other than " Chapel en le Frith".

I'm now really trying to find the burial place of Lillian Hewitt and have received some assistance from a new contact actually in Chapel en le Frith who has been checking Church Records ... so far no luck.

Can anyone throw any more light on this or where I might start an additional search to find this information ?

Regards Safecontractor
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: Gardener on Thursday 30 June 16 10:24 BST (UK)
Would it be good to splash out on a will? https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
Lilian Hewitt of Ollerset Vw Hospital New Mills
Died 27 Feb 1976
Administration Manchester 5 April
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: safecontractor on Thursday 30 June 16 10:49 BST (UK)
Gardener :
Thanks for that ... that info has absolutely shaken me rigid !!! .. apparently the address was an old workhouse at (not much) earlier times .. the will shows £1423 .. so ..... I must investigate further.

I'm very appreciative .. Safecontractor
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 30 June 16 11:54 BST (UK)
If the birth date for Lilian that Jebber mentioned ( 19 July 1895) is correct then this death might be  worth looking at - Lilian Hewitt  Birth 19 July 1894  Death March 1976 Vol 6 Page 1351 - High Peak, Derbyshire. The day and month is the same although the year is one out.
Kay

So this post was correct for Lilian's death. :)
It might be worth ordering the death cert to find out more.
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: safecontractor on Thursday 30 June 16 13:33 BST (UK)
Rolnora ;

Thanks for your input ... perhaps you could advise me:

a). where I could obtain Death Cert and what new/ additional info might be on it and ...

b). another contact has emailed me about 1 hour ago to say that a check on grave headstones in local churches in Chapel en le Frith, has not revealed any name in the 70's that might be relevant. .... bear in mind some headstones were buried / flat when survey taken and are still possible contenders.

c). ... stumped again !!!

Thanks and regards - Safecontractor
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: Marmalady on Thursday 30 June 16 13:49 BST (UK)
Ollerset View is a Nursing Home in New Mills -- a few miles away from Chapel-en-le-Frith (but under the same Reg District) -- so she is possibly buried in a New Mills churchyard rather than Chapel

You can apply for the death certificate through the GRO -- it will give you the date & place of death and the informant - which may be a relative or it may be a nursing home official

I am Graveyard Steward for Chapel Methodist Church -- and she is definitely not buried there -- but I don't have access to the Parish Church records which has a much bigger graveyard

I also grew up in Gatley in the 50's & 60's -- there were still Hewitts in the village then -- i think they ran  a TV/electric shop. I certainly went to school with a Hewitt girl. Have you tried seeing if there is still family in the area ?
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: safecontractor on Thursday 30 June 16 14:12 BST (UK)
Marmalady ;

Thanks for that ... isn't the world a small place ? ... I grew up in Benchill, Wythenshawe and went to the Tatton Cinema in Gatley ... also in the 50's & 60's.

Your information is very helpful .. but I feel that the Gatley connection isn't right . as my Father was the mysterious Lillian's brother ( also spending his early youth in Gatley himself,) he would have known of the Gatley connection.

The problem in tracing people is that the barriers come up with FindmyPast / Ancestry etc. etc. where detailed information always costs money ... usually payable before you know if the info is any good!!! Llibraries are helpful and I have had some good leads via Stockport Heritage Library, and I think they must be my next port of call to see their microfilm records.

Thanks for leads and I'll keep everyone posted .. perhaps others know something ??

Regards Safecontractor.
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: Gardener on Thursday 30 June 16 14:30 BST (UK)
My grandmother died in hospital in 1974. Her death certificate includes her date of birth, usual address, in place of occupation it has her deceased husband's name and occupation, then the informant's name, "qualification" = daughter, and her address.

So quite a lot of information but depends heavily on the informant I suspect. I don't recall my mother being present at the time of death. If anyone had asked me I would have said that she was phoned and went to the hospital, but I may be wrong about that.

A lot will depend on who was around to register the death.
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: rolnora on Thursday 30 June 16 15:55 BST (UK)
Stockport Heritage have the registers in their archives
 Ollersett View North Western Mental Hospital.... unfortunately the register of deaths only go up to 1974. ::)
They also hold the general register and the visitors book but ending in 1964 and 1961 respectively  they're too early to be of much use to you either :(

It could still  be worth sending an email or paying a visit, they might be able to tell you if and where any later registers are held.

Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: safecontractor on Friday 01 July 16 09:00 BST (UK)
Rolnora ;

Thanks again for that .. I presume you mean the Local Heritage Library on Wellington Road, Stockport.. already in touch with them and am just arranging visit ... do you have another Stockport Heritage and contact details ?

Safecontractor
Title: Re: Mysterious. missing Aunt
Post by: rolnora on Friday 01 July 16 13:01 BST (UK)
Hi,
Yes, that's the one.
Sorry I should have said ::)