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Title: Surname of Witness
Post by: rebeccaclaire86 on Sunday 12 June 16 10:19 BST (UK)
I'm hoping that tracing the witnesses of my ancestors marriage might help me trace them back a bit further, however I'm really struggling to decipher the second witness Sarah's surname.  My best guess is Konlham which doesn't seem right! Any ideas?  I could use a second pair of eyes!

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: jaybelnz on Sunday 12 June 16 10:22 BST (UK)
It looks as if her surname has been overwritten!  Could it perhaps be Fordham underneath?
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 12 June 16 10:28 BST (UK)
Northham??

Kay
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: janan on Sunday 12 June 16 10:33 BST (UK)
Definitely _ordham

The first letter doesn't look like an F to me, could be K or wonky N, although not sure Kordham is a name.

Jan ;)
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: jaybelnz on Sunday 12 June 16 10:55 BST (UK)
I thought that might be the top or middle (horizontal) pencilled stroke of an F underneath. Maybe it's a T, or something else with a horizontal stroke??

But yes,  Kordham is a name.
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 12 June 16 11:36 BST (UK)
Who are the bride and groom and when/where did the marriage take place?
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: Geoff-E on Sunday 12 June 16 11:37 BST (UK)
But yes,  Kordham is a name.

There is not a single instance of it in FreeBMD  :-\
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: arthurk on Sunday 12 June 16 11:48 BST (UK)
It looks to me like "fordham" (with lower-case "f").
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: stanmapstone on Sunday 12 June 16 11:56 BST (UK)
If you give the date and the location it may help to find her in a census or other record.

Stan
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: jaybelnz on Sunday 12 June 16 11:58 BST (UK)
Strange Geoff, as there are 50 Kordham's in England on the first page of an Ancestry search, total result of 390,969.  Of course some may be duplicated! But they're certainly around!

Couldn't find a Sarah Kordham in a named search on Ancestry though.

I'll check them for Fordham.

ADDED - Heaps of Sarah Fordhams, but we need names and date etc and details of the marriage to get you back further.
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: rebeccaclaire86 on Sunday 12 June 16 12:03 BST (UK)
Thanks all, Fordham is a possibility I hadn't considered, though a quick search hasn't found any marriages between a Fordham and a Sarah with a surname that ties in.

The marriage was in 1759 so no censuses I'm afraid. The marriage was in Aston, Hertfordshire between John Ormsby and Ann Canfield. I can't find a baptism for John and there are two possibles for Ann, so I was rather hoping Sarah might turn out to be a married sister.

Thanks for the other possible variations, I'll have to have a look for more marriages later!
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: 11easkry on Sunday 12 June 16 13:45 BST (UK)
Maybe Portham?
Title: Re: Surname of Witness
Post by: arthurk on Sunday 12 June 16 13:47 BST (UK)
Strange Geoff, as there are 50 Kordham's in England on the first page of an Ancestry search, total result of 390,969.  Of course some may be duplicated! But they're certainly around!

With an exact surname search I got a lot fewer than that, but I checked a few from the first page of results. There was one 1861 census household where I agree it might have been Kordham, although since the children there were aged 1 and 3m, and haven't shown up at FreeBMD, I'm inclined to think it's really something else. The next few I checked were from printed electoral registers, and all were Fordham. Doesn't say much for their OCR - the printing is very clear.

Arthur